Ok, have now got a copy of the PostGreSQL database/structures on my own, development machine, but would like to be able to populate it with data I can pull off live server, but, since although can access live database/server via PHP code, but not currently via PGAdmin app on machine, was just wondering if should sort of manually rewrite my own form of data mining scripts to do something like pull CSV versions of data off server, and then import them into local database instance, or are there already similar things out there? Stay well Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA '...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...'