Its important that those that are less savvy understand the importance of being aware...it is why some of these virii proliferated....people don't think......and just open things....and there is a new virus based on PHP called PHP.Virdrus [KAV]....so that should fulfill your requirements...why don't you just ignore this conversation? Shadow -- PHP Windows Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php