Stray wrote: > ... I don't have to worry about KDE losing it. ??? When a game crashes or hangs, in fullscreen mode, can't you CTRL+ALT+F1 to access a TTY console and kill the offending Wine process? CTRL+ALT+F7 to return to your normal KDE X-Session (on Ubuntu and derivatives anyway)... That normally works - as Wine runs as a user process it rarely brings the whole X-Server down (on my systems anyway)... Bob