the bold font is to point a user only interested in the non-verbose vitamin wrote: > export WINEPREFIX=$HOME/.wine/wineprefix/WoW > $HOME/.wine/WineVersions/1.2.1/bin/wine $WINEPREFIX/drive_c/Program\ Files/World\ of\ Warcraft/Wow.exe -opengl nice that certainly makes it shorter I finally got steam working with Counter-strike: Source but wow it is so finicky. I installed Steam with wine-1.3.11 (wouldn't work for me using 1.3.8 ) downloaded CSS (which didn't work with 1.3.11) then deleted the associated 1.3.11 prefix files to use the install path to configure CSS with 1.3.8 .... anyways .. lol I had to do the following: 1. added 'gameoverlayrenderer' and disabled it via winecfg library 2. disabled all the notifications and game overlay in the steam client and CSS properties 3. added -window to the path because the full screen CSS was crashing immediately 4. install quartz (via winetrix) for some reason after a few crashes and some google searches I tried this and it worked? - not really sure if this helped at all tbh 5. winetricks(ed) allfonts (which errored) and separately winetricks(ed) tahoma to be sure 6. Adding http://bugs.winehq.org/attachment.cgi?id=18679 to ..counter-strike source/cstrike/resource 7. set all settings to lowest possible setting then consoled 'net_graph 1' to see ping/fps when it did start up once 8. set resolution to 1440x900*** (8***) if I tried setting the resolution to my native res of 1680x1050 it would always crash and seemed to break it for the next few attempts so far it is bearable and i don't think i can improve it --> i can set 1440x900 as fullscreen once in the game and get pretty decent fps (spikes to 200 and avg ~70-80) one last question then i'll stop bloating this thread :) but using winetricks to install drivers - can their effect on the client (if suspected to not be helping) simply be turned off via winecfg > Libraries?