On Fri, Dec 25, 2009 at 19:35, rekuli <wineforum-user@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Yes, Gert, that is exactly what I mean. > Outside of those two desktop environments with their super-layers and after-handlers atop X11, Wine simply does not do what it ought to do, though it is an X11 application, not a GNOME/GTK or KDE/Qt application. That is what irritates me strongly. I just updated from 1.0.1 to 1.1.33, and nothing changed at all. Not even concerning programs that I couldn't get working at all (in Wine running "beneath" GNOME). It didn't crash under TWM.... (And my KDM was stopped anyway for some updates...) (I ran just winecfg, not anything complicated though...) Isn't it a case of FVWM doing something in an unusual way? (I'm not familiar with it...) Some logs might be useful? (not sure what you posted... There might be some additional debug options which might at least make clear what the issue is...) > Btw., I'm never logged in as root if there's no need to modify something important in the whole system. So that's not the problem, either... :-) > I just did it that way since I happened to be logged in... And running X directly as a normal user without going through startx / a session manager (which tends to start lots of other crap) seemed like too much trouble...