Yes, Gert, that is exactly what I mean. Outside of those two desktop environments with their super-layers and after-handlers atop X11, Wine simply does not do what it ought to do, though it is an X11 application, not a GNOME/GTK or KDE/Qt application. That is what irritates me strongly. I just updated from 1.0.1 to 1.1.33, and nothing changed at all. Not even concerning programs that I couldn't get working at all (in Wine running "beneath" GNOME). Btw., I'm never logged in as root if there's no need to modify something important in the whole system. So that's not the problem, either... :-) regards