That's right, office apps haven't changed since DOS times. But the new ones takes much more memory and changes the UI which is mostly an standard for editors. Microsoft 2007 is an aberration, what interface can be more un-standard? In windows i install Office XP when a windozer ask for it because M$O97 haves its drawing problems. About starting a new AutoCAD clone. I am an electronics student and i want to start an open Electronic CAD, which in some parts share the same widgets as a complete CAD. So it can be a joined project. Making good CAD widget can be made multiple kinds of CADs for different applications. How many here are interested to start such a project?