The forum could top-quote the whole thread (or the last 5 messages + title?) in these cases. I, however, find it a silly decision to make. I don't see what's the big issue about it. I've been getting tons of emails and I'm at my 736Mb/6589Mb already (and I made this account 4-5 years ago), and also, what's the point of still having old, old old old list emails, that might have been discussions over bugs or fixes that are already applied and working fine? I know, it's stupid to say but I wanted to point something out. You seem to be unsatisfied at the "lack of techy-ness" of the emails. Well, let me remember you that this is wine-USERS. By users, I'm talking about people ranging to those who don't even know what the hell WINE is and ask that, in the forum they reached by the website that explains what WINE is, to people who can code you a brand new algorithm for anything you can think of in a day. It also means you can find full ranters, flamers (like those who randomly spit caps and pointless arguments for the hell of it, then try to be the wise ones afterwards) and almost every spawn on the net. "Oh, I'm too elitist, wine-users isn't for me because of the noobs" is what your email said to me in a few words. Not with intentions to be offensive, in fact it was very polite :), but you know, it's a downer. I sincerely hope you can re-think your decision and, instead, help improve the mailing list's quality (and the emails too) by helping the new users. You weren't born self-taught, and I'm sure you might have done two or three stupid things in your life and maybe "decreased the quality level" in your family or friends or social groups or parties or whatever. I've done that a few times, nobody's perfect. If you choose to leave forever though, good luck in your endeavours. On Sat, Apr 5, 2008 at 4:49 PM, John Drescher <drescherjm@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 5:11 PM, Mark Knecht <markknecht@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 2:06 PM, John Drescher <drescherjm@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > If I haven't saved the whole thread > > > > in GMail then it becomes pointless to try and help or even figure out > > > > what the discussion is about. > > > > > > > > With gmail I just never delete (unless spam). All of the wine messages > > > go to my wine folder and I clear out the inbox every time I check my > > > mail with archive. > > > > > > John > > > > > Hi John, > > Yeah, but I already have 4GB of email in my GMail account and I've > > been reluctant to let it grow further even though they allow 6+GB now. > > > I see. I am only at the 1.1 GB point right now... > > > > > After all, it isn't like I can't participate. I'll just look at the > > forums once in awhile. In the meantime I won't have to deal with so > > much silly noise. To me the value of forums is that they don't invade > > your life. Folks who like participating that way look when they are > > interested. On the other hand folks who want to be on an email list > > generally like to stay informed. I've always used my Linux lists > > almost like a news source. Now I'll have to go get my news instead of > > having it delivered to my doorstep. To me that's a step backwards but > > preferable in this case. > > > I find it annoying/awkward that the two are linked as well in the > current form. Perhaps this will improve over time. > > John > >
