So, if we look at January, the last month without the forum: http://www.winehq.org/pipermail/wine-users/2008-January/thread.html we had 226 posts. If we look at March, the first full month with the forum: http://www.winehq.org/pipermail/wine-users/2008-March/thread.html we had 2136 posts. Even if you say that 1,000 of those posts were meta posts with complaints from us Mailman lovers, that's still at least a 5 fold increase in traffic. I found that compelling, so I thought I would share. I've long had a strong bias for mailing lists, but I think this is an important lesson for me to accept. If we want to engage and embrace all visitors to Wine - not just the ones that think as I do - we need to make sure the forums are strong and work well. Sigh. First Wikis, now forums. What's next? Am I going to have to twitter and text message with my thumbs? </grumpy old man> <grin> Cheers, Jeremy