On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 3:24 PM, L. Rahyen <research@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Monday March 31 2008 19:08:47 Mark Knecht wrote: > > I wasn't even thinking of changing programs. Really I'm just thinking > > of users who haven't read the manuals or didn't get as far as one of > > thelast things on that list. wineprefixcreate seems about as developer > > like as one could possibly get. Just changing the name of > > wineprefixcreate to something like WineEnvBuilder or whatever > > WineEnvBuilder is *very* bad name. It isn't descriptive (it's cryptic > for any newbie + it doesn't suggest that it also can update WINE prefix (not > only create one), and even worse: it even doesn't suggest that it is intended > for creating WINE prefixes), it will not be listed when you use Tab at the > command line when you already entered "wine", and it contain big letters. > Actually it doesn't matter a lot what is the name of wineprefixcreate. What > really does matter for most newbies is GUI to launch it when necessary (and > intuitive way to understand when this is necessary), or automatic launching > of wineprefixcreate if too old WINE prefix is detected (this is best option). > If you ask my opinion, wineprefixupdate would be better and more descriptive > name; and it is also good idea to add information that it can safely *update* > existing WINE prefix in output of "wineprefixcreate --help". But as I said > this is minor problems... > Currently as far as I know there is neither no simple GUI to use > wineprefixcreate for default or arbitrary WINE prefixes nor auto-run when > user have too old WINE prefix and this is exactly the problem. > It is also obvious that if we decide to silently auto-launch periodically > wineprefixcreate for existing WINE prefixes by default then it should be 100% > safe operation. Personally I almost never used it for updating existing WINE > prefixes so I don't know how safe it is currently. > Having read these threads on wine-devel/wine-users, it seems it looks like a few things need to happen: A) Quit telling people to $ rm -rf ~/.wine, and instead try $ wineprefixcreate B) wineprefixcreate needs more thorough testing and bugs filed for any issues C) Find some way of versioning wineprefixes, checking this when wine is run, and either notifying the user their prefix may be out of date or calling wineprefixcreate to update it before continuing D) GUI wineprefixcreate some way (Possibly in winecfg?) Comments? Is this the general consensus?