On Feb 8, 2008 10:09 AM, Dotan Cohen <dotancohen@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On 08/02/2008, A. Tres Finocchiaro <tres.finocchiaro@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Opera only works for certain platforms and closed source, so its inherently > > a disease to the idea behind Linux. > > I will not get into a religious debate with you. As an end user, I use > the products that fit my workflow, regardless of philosophy. And I pay > what they cost. I use Linux because it is a tool that does what I need > better than the alternatives. I use Opera because it is a tool that > does what i need better than the alternatives. Actually, I'm using > Firefox at the moment because with certain extensions, it fits my work > better than Opera. > > > In some cases, its worth paying for pre-compiled versions of proprietary > > software for linux. IBM does this for x86 for their lotus notes > > application, and also for their iSeries Client access. > > Agreed. > > > I'm not saying I don't support the idea, but that company's site looks like > > they're relatively small. To ask a community to bombard them with emails is > > rude and selfish. > > I understand the point, based on the size of the company. However, I > think that we should start telling these companies that we need Linux > solutions, instead of crying that they ignore us. Of course they > ignore Linux users. _We_ need to contact _them_. > > > Photoshop is on a different scale, it is a standard, and part of today's > > every-day vocabulary. Using photoshop as an example of an application that > > you "don't use", but "still request linux support for" is a weak argument. > > I find the Gimp find for the little work that I do. However, I am > aware that people exist who were raised on Photoshop and need that > tool. I'm even enough of a jerk to help them by contacting Adobe and > backing them up. And you know what? I've already resolved myself to > trying Photoshop again (last used version 5.5) when it's available on > Linux. I'll buy the software if I see that it is an improvement over > Gimp. > > > There is certainly a contradiction between "runs on Linux" and "closed > > source" Linux and the Open Unixes are the only widespread PC operating > > systems to change Kernels on a monthly basis, and they're the only thing out > > that can be compiled to run on any platform. As long as new platforms are > > developed, more requests for precompiled close source applications will > > surface, and you will again be sending this SPAM email to a bunch of people > > that don't program their own joysticks. > > Again, you are mixing philosophical interests that I am unwilling to > take part in. Sorry. I do understand the need for a free, open OS as > well as I understand the need to cure cancer, feed Asia, save the > endangered insect of the month, and fight global warming. I will > support all those causes in the little ways that I can. But I will not > argue about them. Nor is this the place for it. > Please take this argument OFF LIST. It's off-topic and no one else cares to hear it. -- James Hawkins _______________________________________________ wine-users mailing list wine-users@xxxxxxxxxx http://www.winehq.org/mailman/listinfo/wine-users