Well, I didn't know about the SysRq key, so thanks for that trick. Sadly, when it goes down, it really is dead and the SysRq trick doesnt work. I also accept that it's probably an ATI driver thing... time to switch cards. Thanks for the help -- Chris _______________________________________________ wine-users mailing list wine-users@xxxxxxxxxx http://www.winehq.org/mailman/listinfo/wine-users