Duane Clark wrote: >I think you are trying to make this way too complicated. In general, you should never care what DLLs the application uses I agree. But only one of the apps that I have installed before winetools worked. Thank you Stefan for your good info. I'm glad to see that there was a ray of truth in my usual dark understanding. And for Joachim: WineTools worked, and I figure because of the dlls it brought in, so did wine. Dunno, of course. I was able to install one thing that I wasn't able to install before. I'll continue installing other things when I can. Thanks. Two bellyachins, though. One is that the installation of IE failed. I received two messages about a wineserver laying around for 600 seconds. I was afraid to do anything about the first, but eventually clicked the close box button. When it came up again I hit the okay button. At that time I got a message that the installation failed. People like me tend to panic, but I somehow managed not to stop the download (one and a half hours if my guess at the German was correct). Later ran install again and somehow pressed the right buttons and it worked. Assuming that message box shuts off the wineserver & installation if one presses the okay button, why not add "don't click 'okay' if the installation is in a long download." And for the second growl, I don't want to hurt your feelings, sir, but putting IE on my linux feels like giving someone AIDS to cure their allergies. I did it, but I'll be looking over my shoulder a lot. Finally, I was not able to run another install. pstree shows a sleeping wine-preloader, which winetools marked as defunct but wouldn't kill it. I cannot kill the thing. Gave it kill 15, 9 and waved a clove of garlic but it still wouldn't go away. Winetools wouldn't kill it either. (Not blaming wineTools - assuming wine had the problem) Am I: 1. Missing/forgetting something simple in the manuals? 2. Not using the wrong kill signal or garlic variety? 3. Needing to reboot linux? 4. Don't worry about it? -- blessings David L. Smith _______________________________________________ wine-users mailing list wine-users@xxxxxxxxxx http://www.winehq.org/mailman/listinfo/wine-users