On Mon, Sep 06, 2004 at 04:21:43PM -0700, M-Halo wrote: > >As they say, RTFM. > > Just a million pennys worth of advice: with Wine > bridging the gap between Windows users and Linux > users, that saying (while still relevant) will > probably become less desirable to tell people. ;) Thanks for the advice. > So, as people come in from the Windows world, we're Eh heh. I just came in from the Windows world last December or last fall, and I've already started the RTFM junk. I'm too impatient, sleep-deprived, and self-taught. Sorry! > going to have to be a bit more patient with them, and > in fact, have to help them take those baby steps. I always thought that's what Red Hat, Corel and SuSe installers and Linux Idiots and Dummies books were for, but... > Otherwise, they're get turned off by the Linux > community and choose to go back the Windows world. That brings in the concept introduced by QEMU and the like - a Windows world inside Linux. *shrugs* Problem is, nowadays, 70 or 80% of Windows users have never seen a text-mode console (especially now that it's so well hidden in XP) and 5-30 % or so would have problems figuring out the Linux (i.e. ext2/3) filesystem structure, lack of MS-DOS shortforms for long names (i.e substuting an 8 character string for a 256 character one), and case sensitivity. (Those would be easer though, for people who post onto Unix/Linux based web servers, since they have experience putting files on such a system.) Others don't know what to do when they see even the most simplest errors, or want to read documentation on a new system. *sigh* The problems of human nature... If we had 50% of people running Windows inside QEMU or similar inside Linux, would we be able to say that these people ran Linux? > Yes, the saying is still relevant, but it is a bit > harsh. :) Do you think we need to rewrite the acronym RTFM? I dunno, like saying, something kind, simple and short along the lines of "Have you read the manual?"? Some windows users also have problems sometimes with people being "nice" to them -- customer support and user support groups tell them redundant things that they already know and/or have tried 100 times just so they can say they tried. I had that issue. Once, I had trouble connecting to a couple sites through my ISP -- it turned out to be some bad DNS caching in a file locally on my machine, but I kept trying the same things for about a year or two (reinstall Windows DUN) with no results before it got resolved. > > Peace out, > Hiji > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - 100MB free storage! > http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail Again, sorry, and whoops. --Michael Chang _______________________________________________ wine-users mailing list wine-users@xxxxxxxxxx http://www.winehq.org/mailman/listinfo/wine-users
