As you know these apps did work, the best thing you can do is find the patch that caused the problems, and then write to the author of the patch and the wine-devel list, pointing out that the patch causes a series of problems. To track down the nasty patch, follow the instructions at http://www.winehq.com/site/docs/wine-devel/cvs-regression You'll probably have to do this various times, to find the patches that caused problems with the various programs you're using. Ivan. _______________________________________________ wine-users mailing list wine-users@xxxxxxxxxx http://www.winehq.org/mailman/listinfo/wine-users