Last time I tried, a few years back, Wine was not yet up to handling Garmin's proprietary topo map software. It would install, and sometimes even work, so long as I didn't try to connect a GPS to it. (The ones I have are all also Garmins -- old ones wanting a serial port.) I made a huge effort, for most of a year, with a lot of help from high-powered Alpha Plus Technoids on several lists, this one not least among them. But I only ever got one GPS to talk to the software one time, and never figured out how .... What I'm trying to do (and did, under M$, years ago) is go locate game trails, lunch rocks, good stands, etc., on a hunting ground; then come home and include all that info into a good map, to scale, of the hunting ground. Another approach would be to install, say, XP onto a virtual machine, and do the work there. That did work, for a while, after a sufficiently sophisticated technoid friend installed an emulation, or sandbox, or whatever it was. But when I once bollixed up the virtual machine, my cyber-savvy didn't suffice to restore it. And yes, I know there are Linux-native suites nowadays; and Garmin is reported to've put its source code into the public domain. Alas!, those suites all seem to require advanced degrees in CS, cartography, or fields too fierce to mention. <sigh> Are we there yet? -- Beartooth Staffwright, Not Quite Clueless Power User Remember I know little (precious little!) of where up is.