a new version of the valgrind patch has been uploaded to sourceforge - the only change is a small fix to the signal handling which should prevent "signal handler frame" uninitialized errors. http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=710006&group_id=46268&atid=445588 comments? bug reports? success stories? Seeya, Adam -- Real Programmers don't comment their code. If it was hard to write, it should be hard to read, and even harder to modify. These are all my own opinions.