Oh and I also just noticed this in my Konsole output, <snip> err:keyboard:X11DRV_ToUnicode Please report: no char for keysym FE20 (ISO_Left_Tab) : err:keyboard:X11DRV_ToUnicode (virtKey=9,scanCode=F,keycode=17,state=1) err:keyboard:X11DRV_ToUnicode Please report: no char for keysym FE20 (ISO_Left_Tab) : err:keyboard:X11DRV_ToUnicode (virtKey=9,scanCode=F,keycode=17,state=1) </snip> I tried to press TAB. Mark _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com