> Is printf a windows function? msvcrt, crtdll, I guess if your app > imports one of those, it is, but I have no idea where it is spoze to > printf to. No printf isn't a windows function, I was just wondering if there was a way I could send text messages to stdout. I got a better idea, if I use "OutputDebugString" (which is a windows function) will that output debug messages if I use '--debugmsg +relay'? > What are you compiling your app with? > Are you still using a windows compiler, or did you give it to winemaker > as I suggested? Anyway, the "right" thing to do is to use the windows > debugging API, I think wine implements most of it. I have been trying both compiling with Visual C++ 6.0 and trying to use winemaker (so far only compiling with VC++ is showing any fruit.) > Hmmm, if you use console functions (I guess printf would be one), I > think you are meant to use wineconsole to run them instead of wine. > This gives you a separate console window. I don't have any apps handy Yeah, I have come to realize this, I guess my idea of using printf was a little dumb :( Thanks for all your suggestions, you've been very helpful, Quentin.