[VLAN] vlan & osi-model

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HI,

Just to make the thing clear. Is it true that vlan package of linux does
only the tagging. There is no any VLAN table which shows which packet can go
to where?
I also tried VLAN and I recognized that I have to use one of the following:

iptables ->> VLAN layer 3 to separate the different VLANS depending on
subnets
briging ->> VLAN layer 1 (port based) simply placing the interfaces in
different briges.
???? (maybe iptables but only reduced) -->> VLAN layer 2 for MAC VLANs.

How you do this things?!

Thanks
Csaba
-----Original Message-----
From: vlan-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:vlan-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Vishwas Manral
Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2004 8:58 AM
To: Linux 802.1Q VLAN
Subject: RE: [VLAN] vlan & osi-model


Hi Jojan,

I would restate what Ben has said "port-based VLANs work simply because
the equipment knows which port the VLAN comes in on and uses that
information to know that the traffic belongs to a particular VLAN."

There is nothing to do with Layer-1 etc.

Thanks,
Vishwas

-----Original Message-----
From: vlan-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:vlan-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of JOJAN
Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2004 10:14 AM
To: 'Linux 802.1Q VLAN'
Subject: RE: [VLAN] vlan & osi-model

AFAIK, these are not official names.

Layer <n> VLAN is really a layer 2 solution, but it depends on some
layer
<n> feature to make decision on what to do with a packet.

These rules apply only for those packets which are untagged. When they
enter
the switch, the switch has to TAG it before making a decision as to
which
all ports the frame has to be forwarded.

If the switch has Layer3 configurations, those rules are taken first -
then comes layer 2 configurations
then comes layer 1 configurations.

Layer3 VLAN is named so because it examines the Layer3 packet for input
to
the rules e.g., IP subnet
Layer2 VLAN is named so because it examines the layer2 features for
input to
the rule e.g., MAC address, Frame Type
Layer1 VALN is named so because it checks the physical features - the
port
thru which it entered the switch

Hope this is clear.

regards

jojan


-----Original Message-----
From: Lars Reimann [mailto:lar@xxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2004 5:06 PM
To: Linux 802.1Q VLAN
Subject: [VLAN] vlan & osi-model


hi all,

i've a short question about the different vlan operating modes.

everywhere it says: layer 1 VLAN, layer 2 VLAN, layer 3 VLAN, layer 4-7
vlan.

my question is, if vlan layer 1 really corresponds to "OSI-Model Layer 1

" VLAN?

i do understand that layer 2 vlan works with mac-addresses like
osi-model layer 2, and layer 3 vlan inspects ip-adresses for example
forming vlans per subnet. but i cannot imagine how per-port vlan works
on layer1.

can anyone help?

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