> -f start with fullscreen window (only with window manager) Hmm, AFAIK xorg does come with a build in window manager, I'm not 100% sure, but I guess it's called "xwm". This provides just basic window work and I did use just pure xorg over years with the "softdevice" plugin. There was no need to install openbox, fluxbox etc. Regards fnu _______________________________________________ vdr mailing list vdr@xxxxxxxxxxx http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr