On Fri, 05 Jun 2009 09:35:19 +0200Nicolas Huillard <nicolas@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Gerald Dachs a écrit :> > VDR User schrieb:> >> VDR + hdtv has been pretty stable for me for some time now. The> >> few problems I ran into (with VDPAU) were quickly fixed by the> >> xine-vdpau devs. I'm not the only one either, I know a bunch of> >> guys doing the same. It's a highly discussed topic and I'm> >> honestly surprised to hear someone suggest it's in an> >> unstable/crashing/unusable state. My experience has been> >> basically the opposite of that. I would recommend you make sure> >> to have a nice good signal, proper configurations, etc.> > > > I agree with VDR User, I use it for months now without problems.> > Could you please both detail a bit the DVB sources, software> versions, plugins, patches, etc. related to HD, that you actually use> now ? (DVB-T, DVB-S or S2, DVB kernel patches, VDR core,> xineliboutput or xine plugin, xinelib patches...)> I think it would also help if we could reach an agreement over theterms "stable" and "good quality" and "everything is working"because they are highly subjective. For me a "stable" configuration of vdr is one where (I have a dual ffcard setup at the moment):- I can record two streams from two different transponders and watch a third one (either from one of the two transponders, a recorded one, or with mplayer) without pixelation, without skips and with no audio/video desyncing- The osd is fast and clear- Zapping from one channel to another takes less then .5 seconds- everything is controlled from the remote "good quality" in an SD environment means that I am used to thevideo quality of the s-video output of the FF card to a Mitsubishi VPRwith a 100" screen (it isn't blue-ray I know, but except for theresolution, the output quality is really exceptional) "everything is working" means that I have a computer that I use as anstb (no keyboard, no mouse, no video) and that I can power up with myremote, that is completely controlled via my remote, where vdr is ableto autostart and record on its own, where I can burn shows either toDVD or Xvid files, where I can play every media file mplayer can, withPCM or AC3 audio depending on the media, with subtitles in mplayermedia, and the occasional streaming to a vlc client around the house I do have an eHd card I'm playing with, together with an s2-3200 cardon a separate machine, I haven't played with xine-vdpau yet, and untilI can find a video card that will be able to run vdpau with < 10Wconsumption I don't think I will be tempted to try it ... we'll see At the moment I have a running system with one s2-3200, vdr1.7.5,extensions patch, reelbox3, filebrowser,xinemediaplayer (took me about aweekend of fiddling with patches, drivers, small corrections to thereel code, lurking the german boards and swearing, lots of swearing)and some other plugins, hd output on the eHd is really nice, I am notso happy with the quality of SD output either at native resolution orscaled to 1080i .... the non scaled quality is in my opinion much worsethan what I have on my FF card, and the scaled quality depends on themedia, but it is generally bad, in my opinion. >From what I have understood lurking on the German folders (I'm italianso German is a no-no for me) low sd quality on the ehd is a commoncomplaint from eHd users, and one that won't probably be tackled fromReel since apparently it is a hardware/firmware limitation ofthe chip used on the eHd and production and support for the thischip has been terminated from the original manufacturerAlso, it doesn't look like there will be an 'Oliver Endriss'that takes the situation in hand like it happened with the FF cardsfirmware and releases updates even if the original chip developer hasceased support. (on the other hand, since I can understand about oneword in ten of german and usually use google translator to understandthe meaning of the posts, it may be that sd quality output can befine-tuned to FF quality and I simply don't know how) This means that if the situation doesn't change (reel multimedia getsthe source code for the embedded chip in the eHd and tries to improveon it) the next version of the eHd won't use the same chip/there won'tbe and eHd anymore, and sd quality won't improve, unless Reel finds away to improve it using other methods. Since here in Italy the selection of HD channels not related tofootball is non-existent (and I'm not interested in football), there hasbeen no incentive for me (so far) to move from a "stable", "goodquality" and "working" sd solution to an equivalent hd one with lowerquality sd. Also, I am not using file sharing programs to download hd content and Iam not ready to tackle blu-ray yet . > Maybe there is an english howto somewhere ?> Hmm, not that I'm aware of, the most reliable howto is on the germanVDR wiki:http://www.vdr-wiki.de/wiki/index.php/OpenSUSE_VDR_DVB-S2_-_Teil2.1:_eHD#Vorbereitungen this covers the ehd and vdr basic install, while for thexinemediaplayer (that requires you to compile a custom version ofxine-lib and the xine-hde plugin) I had to delve into the german boardand improvise and do some manual changes in order for all the pluginsto compile/run correctly on my setup (ubuntu 9.04 32bit) .... from whatI understand depending on the host system and the architecture and gccversion and a couple other factors the plugins should compile withminimal adjustments/force you to manually correct compilation errors(that was my case) It would be great if someone that has a "stable, good quality andworking" eHd setup that also outputs "good quality" sd video could stepup and point us non german speakers to some documentation/thread (evengerman would do) and/or patches and/or suggestions about how to obtaingood results with the eHd Regards Mattia ---MR.--- _______________________________________________vdr mailing listvdr@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
