On 09.12.2008 23:04, Magnus Hörlin wrote: > Klaus Schmidinger wrote: >> On 09.12.2008 21:47, Magnus Hörlin wrote: >> >>> ... >>> >>>> On Tue, Dec 09, 2008 at 07:34:19PM +0100, Magnus Hörlin wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> I hope you don't buy an eHD card since I don't believe it's the way to >>>>> go and it would drive VDR in the wrong direction. I'm sitting here with >>>>> a ???65 nvidia 8200-based motherboard playing 1080p videos with the cpu >>>>> 97% idle using vdpau and ffmpeg! That's NOT software decoding if you ask >>>>> me. And now that hdmi audio finally works with nvidia it's just awesome. >>>>> I REALLY hope the xine guys will get this running soon. >>>>> Btw, thanks to Klaus and the rest for all the work you put into this. >>>>> /Magnus H >>>>> >>>>> >>>> ... >>>> >>> I'm sorry if you think I was "bashing" the eHD card or RMM, that was not >>> my intention. What I meant was that I hope Klaus doesn't buy one because >>> >> I already have one ;-) >> > Ok, I missed that. >> >>> I think that would keep him in the "ff-card/one computer/one >>> user"-thinking longer. If he switched to using xinelib/ffmpeg I think we >>> would see a "separated vdr-backend with multiple frontends >>> capability"-scenario a lot sooner, don't you? >>> >> My VDR is one machine with several DVB devices and hardware replay. >> As long as there is a way of having a good hardware replay, why >> shouldn't I use it? >> > My opinion as a hardware design engineer is that when my cpu is 97% idle > displaying 1080p video, it is hardware replay. And the GPU is already > there for the majority of the vdr users, so why not focus on that? Well, tell that to people writing plugins for such output devices. I don't see where *I* would be involved there?! I want an easy to use hardware output device, and so far the FF DVB cards served me just fine. The next step in *my* VDR will be an eHD card (as I already have one). Others may use whatever output device they prefer. That's why cDevice is a virtual class and allows implementing any kind of output device ;-) >> Why would software replay in my VDR change anyting regarding "separated >> vdr-backend with multiple frontends capability"? >> > My guess was that if xinelib was your "native" vdr frontend, perhaps you > would try running it on your laptop or desktop machine or whatever, and > eventually see that there's room for improvement when running multiple > frontends. Maybe I'll even get there one day - but it's no immediate need for me. Sorry for being a little "selfish" here, but I always made it clear that VDR to me is a plain, simple digital receiver and video recorder. Nothing fancy, no bells and whistles, just recording and replaying video broadcasts. >> Besides, isn't there the streamdev plugin that provides signals >> to other clients? I've never tried it myself, but I was under >> the impression that this is what people use in such cases... >> > That's just my point, you havn't tried it for the above mentioned > reasons..... I use streamdev and multiple vdr instances myself, but it's > not perfect. I really hope you don't take any offence by my posts, I'm a > huge fan. I haven't seen anything offensive in your posts ;-) Klaus _______________________________________________ vdr mailing list vdr@xxxxxxxxxxx http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr