Hello ARD swaps some transponders 2nd June. Eins Extra, Eins Festival, Eins Plus, Phoenix, Arte, Radio Bremen TV,BR-alpha Astra 1KR Transponder 51 (10.744 MHz, horizontal, Symbolrate 22.000 kBd) Radio Bremen TV,BR-alpha Astra 1H Transponder 101 resp.93 Bayerisches Fernsehen Transponder 71 MDR FERNSEHEN / NDR Fernsehen With VDR that seems to be a great pain, or? Sample: ARD is at say "Channel 5" and the new ARD Channels are detected at "1200" ff... (autodetection is a nice feature) VDR allows to mark "Channel 1200" and move it 1204 lines back wards via cursor. (Channel table does no "wrapp", there are 1700 channel entries totally so the other way arround would be "only" 500 lines)) OK, Channel lists can be sorted by transponder owners. That way old and new ARD channels are nearby. But in that mode "move" does not work anymore... OK, so lets moven 1204 lines so the new channel will become "Channel 6" Now simply "delete channel 5". Oops, does not work as there an active "timers" OK, lets go the timers. No way to sort them by Channels, and not really "attractive" to change every timer manually. I can't imagine that this is realy the "intended" way if a transponders swaps. Please tell me what i made wrong? Why is there no "exchange" or "direct renumber"? BTW: The new ARD channels will be on "lo"-Band AFAIK. A further reason to make the "single LNB patch" part of VDR... Other "Single Wire" Solutionmay have problems too. See CENELEC EN 50494 "Unicable" Rainer _______________________________________________ vdr mailing list vdr@xxxxxxxxxxx http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr