On 08/15/07 15:07, Matthias Schwarzott wrote:
> On Mittwoch, 15. August 2007, Klaus Schmidinger wrote:
>> On 08/15/07 14:02, Matthias Schwarzott wrote:
>>> On Mittwoch, 15. August 2007, Matthias Fechner wrote:
>>>> Hi Matthias,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> because German is spoken in more then one country: de_DE, de_AT and I
>>>> think de_CH and more. I havn't not list with all locales here now.
>>> Yeah, german is spoken in other countries. Is there then a reason to
>>> restrict the translation to germany?
>>>
>>> some example:
>>> wget installs the file /usr/share/locale/de/LC_MESSAGES/wget.mo
>>> this is to provide translations for "all" de* locales. Not just the
>>> german one, but also for austria and swiss.
>> I just tried renaming VDR's "de_DE" locale to "de" and did
>>
>> LC_ALL=de_AT ./vdr
>>
> This will work, but only if the locale de_AT you set does exist (being in
> output of locale -a).
>> but it came up with the default English texts. Then I renamed
>> "de" to "de_AT" and did the same again, and I got the German texts.
>>
>> I was hoping that gettext would be a little more intelligent and
>> look for
>>
>> - an exact match ("de_AT")
>> - a default ("de")
>> - any suitable language ("de_DE")
>
> I think it does this but not doing "any suitable language".
>
> trying it with ls:
> # LC_ALL=de_DE strace ls xxx
>
> open("/usr/share/locale/de_DE.utf8/LC_MESSAGES/coreutils.mo", O_RDONLY) = -1
> ENOENT (No such file or directory)
> open("/usr/share/locale/de_DE/LC_MESSAGES/coreutils.mo", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT
> (No such file or directory)
> open("/usr/share/locale/de.utf8/LC_MESSAGES/coreutils.mo", O_RDONLY) = -1
> ENOENT (No such file or directory)
> open("/usr/share/locale/de/LC_MESSAGES/coreutils.mo", O_RDONLY) = 3
>
> You can see that gettext does this:
> 1. Trying the set locale with some different charsets (de_DE.utf8, de_DE)
> 2. stripping of country and trying language with different charsets (de.utf8,
> de).
>
> Only condition is that the locale one sets LC_MESSAGES to must exist.
>
>
> Now my tests: I created de_DE and de_AT locales on my system, but not de_CH.
>
> # LC_ALL=de_DE ls zzzz
> ls: Zugriff auf zzzz nicht möglich: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden
> # LC_ALL=de_AT ls zzzz
> ls: Zugriff auf zzzz nicht möglich: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden
> # LC_ALL=de_CH ls zzzz
> ls: cannot access zzzz: No such file or directory
>
> # LC_ALL=de ls zzz
> ls: cannot access zzzz: No such file or directory
>
> The reason vdr does not work with directory called de is the same as LC_ALL=de
> will not work.
> There is no locale called de even if the directory is called de.
Well, if setlocale() can only be called with something like "de_DE"
and not kust "de", then it is clear that VDR's locale directories
must be named "de_DE" etc., because VDR uses these names to call
setlocale() when switching the language during runtime.
I'll add the missing intelligence to I18nInitialize...
Klaus
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