I demand that tasos may or may not have top-posted... > first of all thanks for answering. > for vdr just vdr > for xine just xine but even xine vdr://channel or dvb://channel tells me > that there is not support for dvb which exists because i can see the > plugins loaded in xine.. You mean "vdr://tmp/vdr-xine/stream#demux:mpeg_pes", surely. And if vdr has claimed all available DVB card(s), xine-lib's dvb plugin isn't going to work. [snip] -- | Darren Salt | linux or ds at | nr. Ashington, | Toon | RISC OS, Linux | youmustbejoking,demon,co,uk | Northumberland | Army | Let's keep the pound sterling You can never tell which way the train went by looking at the tracks.