I'm wondering what's the difference with these two examples: YLE TV1:330:M128:C:6875:512+128:650=fin:2321:0:1:111:0:0 YLE TV2:330:M128:C:6875:513+129:660=fin,660=eng:2321:0:2:111:0:0 MTV3:330:M128:C:6875:305:561=fin:817:0:3:111:0:0 Nelonen :330:M128:C:6875:215+512:888=fin:576:0:4:111:0:0 YLE TV1:330000:M128:C:6875:512+128:650=fin:2321:0:1:0:1:0 YLE TV2:330000:M128:C:6875:513+129:660=fin,660=fin:2321:0:2:0:1:0 MTV3:330000:M128:C:6875:305:561=fin:817:0:3:0:1:0 Nelonen:330000:M128:C:6875:215:888=fin:576:0:4:0:1:0 As you can see the only difference seems to be the NID and TID entries from which the VDR WiKi says: -------- NID Network ID. Placeholder for future development. Currently 0. (VDR-1.2.x only) TID Transport Stream ID. Placeholder for future development. Currently 0. (VDR-1.2.x only) Differences VDR-1.2.x NID=0, TID=0, RID=0 VDR-1.2.x with AutoPID-Patch NID<>0, TID<>0, RID<>0 valid VDR-1.3.x NID<>0, TID<>0, RID<>0 valid, starting from version 1.3.12 also service provider included in Name, in Audio-PID also language marker valid. -------- Yet the first one doesn't produce any EPG information for VDR and the second one does. For reference, the first one is created byt scanning with the newest dvb-c dvbscan from the dvb-apps CVS and the second example is created with some earlier version. -- Heikki M