Re: [PATCH 07/12] hwclock: update --help content and grammar

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On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 03:05:04PM +0200, Ruediger Meier wrote:
> On Tuesday 20 June 2017, Karel Zak wrote:
> > On Sun, Jun 18, 2017 at 08:45:09PM -0400, J William Piggott wrote:
> > > Signed-off-by: J William Piggott <elseifthen@xxxxxxx>
> > > ---
> > >  include/c.h         |  4 ++--
> > >  sys-utils/hwclock.c | 48
> > > +++++++++++++++++++++--------------------------- 2 files changed,
> > > 23 insertions(+), 29 deletions(-)
> > >
> > > diff --git a/include/c.h b/include/c.h
> > > index 9c19965..bd073fc 100644
> > > --- a/include/c.h
> > > +++ b/include/c.h
> > > @@ -319,8 +319,8 @@ static inline int xusleep(useconds_t usec)
> > >  #define USAGE_OPTIONS    _("\nOptions:\n")
> > >  #define USAGE_FUNCTIONS  _("\nFunctions:\n")
> > >  #define USAGE_SEPARATOR    "\n"
> > > -#define USAGE_HELP       _(" -h, --help     display this help and
> > > exit\n") -#define USAGE_VERSION    _(" -V, --version  output
> > > version information and exit\n") +#define USAGE_HELP       _(" -h,
> > > --help     display this information and exit\n")
> >
> >  "display this help and exit\n"
> > or
> >  "display help information and exit\n"
> >
> > sounds better than "this information".
> 
> IMO "this" is important because it makes clear that running --help would 
> not give you any better information than the one you see already.
> 
> Compare this:
> $ xz --help | grep help
>   -h, --help        display this short help and exit
>   -H, --long-help   display the long help (lists also the ...
> 
> $ xz --long-help | grep help
>   -h, --help        display the short help (lists only the basic ...
>   -H, --long-help   display this long help and exit
> 
> 
> Our old errtryhelp, USAGE_HELP and USAGE_VERSION were 100% the same like 
> coreutils. This was a nice consensus and even a bit shorter.
> 
> Anyways, instead of improving the grammer and correctness I would rather 
> make these trivial option descriptions as short as possible, like
> 
>  -h, --help     display this help
>  -V, --version  show version
> 
> Everybody knows what these options do when they exist.

Good points, please, send a patch. It would be also nice to add any
comment to the c.h to avoid future updates on this area.

    Karel


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