On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 09:10:19AM -0500, Felix Miata wrote: > On 2014-01-15 09:27 (GMT+0100) Karel Zak composed: > > >On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 01:47:40AM -0500, Felix Miata wrote: > > >>Is there a way to do $SUBJECT? One really shouldn't have to resort to using > >>-L on every invocation to be able to see fdisk output. > > > Does it mean that fdisk output is broken or you just don't like > > colors? You can use: > > How about I defer answering that until you look at this image I should have > included in my OP: > > http://fm.no-ip.com/SS/colorsTTYbadFdisk.png Well, for me is the output pretty readable, but I understand that for someone else it could be difficult. If I run "xterm -bg blue -fg white" then ls(1) output on Fedora is absolutely useless, does it mean that coreutils/Fedora use stupid defaults? > Exactly what in that image is the non-default color supposed to be conveying? make the header more readable ;-) > > alias fdisk=fdisk -L=never > > > in your shell profile or rc file. > > That seems to have ignored a keyword in $SUBJECT: global I don't think so. > I have many logins on many installations. In what global config file (e.g. > Debian, Fedora, Gentoo, Knoppix, Mageia, openSUSE, Slackware, etc.) can I > make never the default for all users? depends on distro... for example /etc/profile.d/* > Orange on a 16 color display doesn't look much different than red. Both > contrast poorly unless the background is white, detracting from any value as > warning intended by those color choices. so your suggestion is to disable the colors at all for all Linux boxes by default? I understand your point of view, but I'd like to use default that is usable to majority of the Linux users. > > I have already thought about it and it would be probably nice to have > > a way how to globally configure colors for all command line utils > > (e.g. util-linux, coreutils, ...). > > I'm pretty sure all other utils I commonly use have a way to turn off color > globally. Some utils don't, so I don't use them unless no alternative > exists. There really is no practical alternative to fdisk -l that I'm aware > of. See the problem from opposite side -- for example grep and ls have disabled colors by default, so many distributions have things like: alias egrep='egrep --color=tty' alias fgrep='fgrep --color=tty' alias grep='grep --color=tty' alias l.='ls -d .* --color=auto' alias ll='ls -l --color=auto' alias ls='ls --color=auto' in /etc/profile.d/ to overwrite the default... > > It seems we have no standard and package independent solution now, > > so distributions use things like "alias" in shell profile files (for > > example for ls(1), grep(1), ...). It would be nice to have at least > > global variable (something like COLOR_MODE={auto,never,always}) to > > avoid aliases with --color= option. (CC: Padraig ;-) > > One reason I use the ttys is for comfort, a pleasant environment where > legibility is maximized, in part by big bold text, in part by lack of > distraction from other windows and widgets, in other part by using only the > two colors of my choice. In that environment I don't want or need to be > "warned" by colors I can barely see. I understand.. it would be nice to have a one place to disable/enable colors for all terminal utils, maybe something like /etc/terminal-colors.d/[<utilname>.]disable I'm going to resolve the problem for the next v2.25. Thanks! Karel -- Karel Zak <kzak@xxxxxxxxxx> http://karelzak.blogspot.com -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe util-linux" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
