On 27/5/19 10:02, Andrey Smirnov wrote: > On Mon, May 27, 2019 at 12:49 AM Ahmad Fatoum <a.fatoum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >> Hello Andrey, >> >> On 27/5/19 09:28, Andrey Smirnov wrote: >>>>>> Generally, affected boards have been broken since day 1, because the LVDS output >>>>>> would've locked up every blue moon or so. If this patch breaks them, they're just >>>>>> more reliably broken. :-) >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> There's a world of difference between not working every once in a blue >>>>> moon and not working from a first boot. >>>> >>>> Ye, the latter one can be dealt with on-the-spot. The other is much more costly to >>>> fix. >>>> >>> >>> Here's a different perspective: If you needed to make an urgent phone >>> call, would you rather you phone didn't work every once in a blue moon >>> or be broken for the get go? >> >> The expectation is that the phone's basic operation was verified beforehand >> and a once-in-a-blue-moon kind of issue is easier missed than an always >> occurring one. >> >> Do I take this as you voicing support of v1 of the patchset? >> > > No, not at all. Both versions are fine as far as I am concerned and > should proceed on whatever course you guys decided on. This particular > conversation started with you trying to convince me that "generally" s/generally/strictly speaking/, would maybe have conveyed the intention better. > your patch didn't break the board and it was always broken, just less > reliably so. My point is that this is just a borderline exercise in > sophistry and if a thing went from "working 99% of the time" to "not > working at all" after a change, that change broke that thing. Even if > the change itself is a good thing and definitely should be done. I didn't mean to downplay the patch's breakage. It's just that arguing in favor of it is easier when the aspect was partially broken before. Thanks again, Ahmad > > Thanks, > Andrey Smirnov > -- Pengutronix e.K. | | Industrial Linux Solutions | http://www.pengutronix.de/ | Peiner Str. 6-8, 31137 Hildesheim, Germany | Phone: +49-5121-206917-0 | Amtsgericht Hildesheim, HRA 2686 | Fax: +49-5121-206917-5555 | _______________________________________________ barebox mailing list barebox@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/barebox
