Re: Anyone have any experience with Kaffeine?

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On 2024-05-23 12:44:43 Darrell Anderson via tde-users wrote:
> On 5/22/24 11:44 PM, dep via tde-users wrote:
> > The Hauppauge TV tuner arrived, and while it was a little fiddly -- and
> > the author of the user guide makes no distinction between important and
> > unimportant -- I got Kaffeine running nicely, with nice, clear pictures,
> > EPG, everything . . . except sound. Not a peep, but an occasional
> > crackle, which is disconcerting.
> >
> > It seems as if Kaffeine is abandonware, and there is little online about
> > it, so I am on my own unless someone here knows the application, or
> > another app that can stream live local TV via a tuner dongle.
> >
> > Does anyone?
>
> Once upon a time I used Kaffeine to live stream TV. Somewhere along the
> way Kaffeine stopped working for me. I have memories between 0.87 and
> 0.88. Perhaps comparing the code between the two versions might reveal
> something.
>
> I just tried Kaffeine again. The software crashes with just about
> anything I try. The errors are related to xine-parts. If I remember
> correctly originally Kaffeine was designed with Xine as a backend. Xine
> is maintained code, but my guess is Kaffeine code needs to be updated
> with the latest Xine code. There is support for gstreamer, but streaming
> TV requires the Xine backend.
	When I try to use it to listen to audio with Xine it crashes; with gstreamer
is complains that it can't find it.
>
> I tested Xine to verify everything functions. I have xine-lib-1.2.11 and
> xine-ui-0.99.13 installed. I can play audio, video, and TV channels.
> Xine does not have the most friendly interface so be patient. But at
> least I affirmed that Xine is not the issue.
>
> At this point seems we're at a dead end without digging into Kaffeine code.
>
> Since those days of Kaffeine I have been using SMPlayer to test live TV.
> I don't do that much because years ago I wrote my own shell script to
> record channels. I am not much of a TV watcher and my recordings are
> limited to old movies and an occasional PBC Nova show. The recordings
> are watched with an old version XBMC on the living room TV. But I use
> SMPlayer to test my TV capture cards. SMPlayer always take a long time
> to initialize a TV stream but otherwise works. I also use SMPlayer to
> watch short online videos I download with yt-dlp.
>
> SMPlayer does not scan TV channels automatically. That needs to be done
> separately. I use a package named dvb-apps and use the scan command. The
> command needs a list of the available channel frequencies, which for me
> is ATSC. A functional Kaffeine can scan channels and oddly, through the
> years I retained my ATSC scan results.
>
> Originally SMPlayer was a frontend to MPlayer but now also supports MPV.
> Years ago when I stopped using Kaffeine and started using SMPlayer I
> converted those Kaffeine channel scan files to a compatible MPlayer
> channels.conf file. SMPlayer reads this file and then creates its own
> channel list. While I can recommend SMPlayer to stream live TV, there is
> some frontend work required to get everything functional.
>
> Once upon a time I tried VLC, but there were various usability issues I
> did not like and now no longer remember. SMPlayer has always just worked
> for me and I never tried VLC again.
>
> I always thought Kaffeine was a handy little tool.
	More friendly than any of the others I've tried, for sure.

> I'd be willing to
> help test patches if somebody started digging into the code.
>

Leslie
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