Okay, so now dig me. :-] I played round with ksystraycmd. It shows how long it's been since I thought about this thing, because after mulling it over a bit, I figured out how to make my own trick. alt-F2 smplayer %f | --pkill ksystraycmd Whatever applies to smplayer here, ought to work with other programs, too. That kills the ghost icon from the start, if I open it from alt-F2, but now I get a plain white vanilla gui interface. I believe I can figure out how to force my own background, and probably how to get all this stuff into the "open with" menu. There's probably an easier way, but at least I can get this to work for me. So I think I'm halfway there. Now for the messier problem: I have all these leftover shortcuts in my "open with" menus. It worst in my oldest folders, of course. Now I'm wondering, Is there's an easy way of getting rid of those unused shortcuts? Bill ____________________________________________________ tde-users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Web mail archive available at https://mail.trinitydesktop.org/mailman3/hyperkitty/list/users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx