On Thursday 09 December 2021 02:27:01 pm William Morder via tde-users wrote: > Sorry for the off-topic post, but I believe it was Mike, Michael, somebody > here on the list, who recommended I try out Whonix. > > I did give it a brief try a few years ago, but don't remember much. Now, > however, I have at last acquired a half-decent machine, 64-bit (Lenovo > Ideapad 3 15.6" laptop), able to do the job. I hope I chose well. > > If I recall, one OS runs inside the other in a virtual machine ...? > something like that. Anyway, if anybody can point me in the right > direction, give me a few tips, then I think I'll be good to go. I've > already managed to move through several different types of Linux distros, > so I just need some advice for Whonix beginners. > > Already downloaded Qubes and Whonix iso images, in both Buster and Chimaera > versions. > > Please feel free to write to my private email, so we don't clutter the list > with my off-topic pursuits. ;-) > > Thanks for any help! > Hi Bill, That was probably me. I'll reply this time to the list to clarify something for everyone, and if you need any questions answered, like you said, we can take it private (or use the MX forum as they don’t have users with issues about OT threads). Qubes OS, https://www.qubes-os.org/ , gets installed on bare metal. If you’re considering it, do create a Live USB of it to test out that it and your hardware work well together. As using Qubes is a radically different work flow, do expect to sink 10 to 40 hours of learning time into it (probably preferably on the Live USB). Whonix, https://www.whonix.org/ , can be installed either through Virtualbox on an existing distribution or inside Qubes (I believe Qubes default installs it). Installing Oracle VM Virtualbox is actually harder to install than Whonix (Whonix having a very clear user install guide). Virtualbox Installation (Debian derivatives): Use root, or add sudo to each line. Do pay attention to the prompts, you must answer ‘yes’ to the Oracle license(s). I can’t remember if installing each separately is required, but this is my notes for the procedure, which worked ;). <install_package_names> apt-get install virtualbox apt-get install virtualbox-ext-pack apt-get install virtualbox-guest-additions-iso <postinstall> gpasswd -M $(getent group users | cut -d: -f4) vboxusers One consideration: Qubes doesn’t ‘share’ data between VMs very easily. So if you can only use your printer from a Window VM, it’s problematic getting the print job from a Linux VM to the Windows VM. This is not a flaw, but a security architecture decision. Virtualbox allows VMs to have shared folders with the host, so you don’t run into this issue. My final thoughts: If you just want to obfuscate your online presence, then go with Virtualbox/Whonix. If you have a physical safety issue for your data then I’d lean towards Qubes. My 2 cents, HTH, and best, Michael ____________________________________________________ tde-users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Web mail archive available at https://mail.trinitydesktop.org/mailman3/hyperkitty/list/users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
