On Sunday 31 October 2021 06:38:06 pm dep wrote:
> Does ~/.xsession-errors cast any light on the problem?
It spits out the same thing that the typescript I pasted did with a bit more
information at the top. I attached it to keep this message from being too long
(and trimmed the file to whats TDE-related since it was huge).
On Sunday 31 October 2021 07:02:02 pm William Morder via tde-users wrote:
> You said that if you use sysvinit, every Debian package wants to uninstall
> it; that's because Debian uses systemd. If you want sysvinit, rather than
> systemd, then you must use Devuan or another non-systemd distro (e.g. MX
> Linux, etc.). Devuan is nearly identical to Debian, and most packages are
> interchangeable between them.
>
> I am not saying that you ought to prefer one over the other. Others will
> have their own preferences, too.
Yes, I have equal experience with Devuan. I've used both for quite some time
before FreeBSD. I chose to go with Debian since 1. the Devuan mirrors are
quite slow for me and 2. Debian is making moves towards init freedom:
https://wiki.debian.org/Init
Unfortunately, I followed these steps and sysvinit works but everything wants
to remove it. It doesn't look like there's any way to update-alternatives to
your init. I am not a fan of systemd myself but I started using Pipewire to
make Linux audio more bearable and it's a bit of a hassle without systemd for
now. Since I'm on Sid, if something changes I'll be the first to know. Maybe
sooner or later we'll see if Debian packages become more init-independent.
--
~ Hunter
Xsession: X session started for hunter at Sun Oct 31 05:51:20 PM CDT 2021
dbus-update-activation-environment: setting DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS=unix:path=/run/user/1000/bus
dbus-update-activation-environment: setting DISPLAY=:0
localuser:hunter being added to access control list
dbus-update-activation-environment: setting QT_ACCESSIBILITY=1
[starttde] Starting starttde.
[starttde] This script is /opt/trinity/bin/starttde
[starttde] TDE version is R14.0.11
[starttde] TDE base directory is /opt/trinity
[starttde] TDEHOME is not set.
[starttde] Set TDEHOME to /home/hunter/.trinity.
[starttde] Setting TDEROOTHOME to /root/.trinity.
[starttde] XDG_DATA_DIRS: /home/hunter/.local/share/flatpak/exports/share:/var/lib/flatpak/exports/share:/opt/trinity/share:/usr/local/share:/usr/share
[starttde] Clearing setting of font DPI value
[starttde] TDEDIR: /opt/trinity
[starttde] TDEDIRS:
[starttde] Starting Trinity...
[starttde] Trinity hardware control dbus daemon running.
[tdebuildsycoca] tdebuildsycoca running...
[2021/10/31 17:51:20.875] [dcopserver] DCOP Cleaning up dead connections.
[kdetcompmgr] Using '/tmp/.1000-compton-tde.pid' as compton-tde pidfile
[starttde] TDE_FULL_SESSION: true
[starttde] TDE_SESSION_UID: 1000
[tdeinit] Shutting down running client.
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