On Monday 04 October 2021 07:55:52 Michael wrote: > On Sunday 03 October 2021 10:59:25 pm Felix Miata wrote: > > IMO: Rethink your aversion to systemd. Eventually you'll run into > > software you simply cannot use because it depends on some part of the > > growing systemd monolith. All the major distros have switched to systemd. > > Those that don't are increasingly relying on kludges and a growing amount > > of forking upstream to keep going. > > > > If you expect to live more than 10 more years, you might as well go > > mainstream sooner than later. > > The irony of your arguments Felix is it is the same argument KDE4 people > made to those who switched to TDE. Especially the, “If you expect to live > more than 10 more years,” since TDE recently celebrated its 10 year > birthday… > > Michael Myself, I plan to live for ever, but I hope never to be forced into using systemd; or to do anything else, or to use any software or machine, that does not respect my wishes. I want my machine to do what I want, not for me to have to obey my machine. When I used Debian and systemd, I always had strange problems that I could not resolve easily, but as soon as I switched to Devuan, my life got much less complicated. No doubt Felix (and others who run Debian other systemd distros) have had better experiences. Otherwise they wouldn't stick with it. I may change my mind in the future, but I doubt it. If it does come down to something like an ultimatum (i.e., use systemd or else!), then I will use the standard exemption that it goes against my religion. So now I need to find some religion or deeply-held philosophical belief or spiritual practice that will justify my rejection of non-GNU/Linux and other software that I find objectionable. Top of my list so far are the Amish, Luddites and anarcho-primitivism. However these would require big changes in my life, so I hesitate to commit myself to any single path. Or I could just keep things simple, and run Devuan. Bill ____________________________________________________ tde-users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Web mail archive available at https://mail.trinitydesktop.org/mailman3/hyperkitty/list/users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx