said Dr. Nikolaus Klepp: | Hi dep! Greetings, Nik! | Anno domini 2021 Fri, 11 Jun 17:48:18 +0000 | | dep scripsit: | > Greets, folks . . . | > | > I just now spent five minutes looking in vain for PDF Arranger in my | > kmenu. I have no doubt it's there, but in the decades of KDE3x and TDE | > I've yet to have the kmenu search box work even once; meanwhile, items | > in the submenus are spashed across them with no sense nor reason I can | > find -- Settings, System, and Utilities are in many respects one | > submenu distributed at random across three. Install a new application? | > Where is it in the kmenu? It's not a menu, it's a *game*! | > | > (Example: I have the Gramps genealogy application installed. It's even | > on the kmenu. Wanna know where it got stuck? Office > Database.) | > | > This doesn't matter if you have just a few applications installed. | > More than that and you're screwed. | > | > The problem is exacerbated by new applications being installed any old | > place within a submenu. Might be at the top. Might be at the bottom. | > Might be in the middle. (And of course the classic favorite, in some | > other sub- or sub-submenu entirely.) | > | > To make the game even more challenging, there's no practical way to | > bring order to it. There's no way to arrange the applications in | > alphabetical order within a submenu. | > | > And for advanced players, kmenu is festooned with some script that | > without user intervention prevents the desktop from starting at all! | > | > Surely there's got to be a way to automagically (or let users) | > organize the kmenu in TDE. Because as it stands, and has stood for | > decades, it's an unholy mess. | > | > Is there a recipe or script or, well, anything? | | Well ... this the unholy grale of *.desktop ... | Example: My build-script for pycam generates a .desktop-file with these | entries ($NAME is replaced by "pycam" in this context): | | [Desktop Entry] | Version=1.0 | Type=Application | Exec=/opt/$NAME/start.sh | Icon=/opt/$NAME/$NAME.png | X-GNOME-DocPath= | Terminal=false | Name=PyCAM | Comment= | StartupNotify=false | Categories=Science;X-CNC; | Keywords=cnc;linuxcnc;$NAME | | The line with "Category" says where the most ingeniouse creator of the | .desktop-file would like it to appear in the menus. In my case, it sould | be placed in "X-CNC" which is the submenu of linuxcnc. If that's not | there it will go to "Science". And if that's not existing, too, | "Science" will hopefully be created. If the author of the .desktop-file | would have given a second thought on this he probably would have | realized that moving "pycan" to "Science" as fallback does not make | great sense. But he (my inferior me) only uses this package on computers | with linuxcnc, so it did not occur to him. As time goes by linuxcnc did | not work on chimera for some time (python 2 got removed), and my | brighter side complained to my inferior me about the stupidity of | putting "pycam" in the alternative location "Science/pycam" when | linuxcnc is not installed. My inferior me was able to solve that naging | problem ... no, not by changing the .desktop file (that would have been | too easy) but by checking out linuxcnc-master, which happens to work | with python3 now ... so bug fixed, brilliant :) | | | Nik Um, yeah, okay . . . I believe you've made my point. Nor is there any place I can find a simple file that contains all the entries in one's KMenu, such that one might rearrange them by hand. It is surely stored someplace, but I cannot find it. It ought to be able to be opened in a spreadsheet such that the order could be altered with a click. Or any of a multitude of formats. But it is, as I mentioned, a mess. -- dep Pictures: http://www.ipernity.com/doc/depscribe/album Column: https://www.athensnews.com/opinion/columns/the_view_from_mudsock_heights/ ____________________________________________________ tde-users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Web mail archive available at https://mail.trinitydesktop.org/mailman3/hyperkitty/list/users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
