Re: MTP again

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Anno domini 2020 Thu, 29 Oct 04:48:15 -0700
 William Morder via tde-users scripsit:
> 
> On Thursday 29 October 2020 04:21:29 E. Liddell via tde-users wrote:
> > On Thu, 29 Oct 2020 09:14:33 +0100
> >
> > deloptes <deloptes@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > E. Liddell wrote:
> > > > I assume you've already seen https://wiki.debian.org/mtp
> > > >
> > > > Might be something useful here:
> > > >
> > > > https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Media_Transfer_Protocol
> > > >
> > > > or here:
> > > >
> > > > https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/MTP
> > > >
> > > > If those are no help, I would agree that it's better to ask through the
> > > > Debian channels—this is a general non-TDE Linux question, so few of us
> > > > are going to be at all knowledgeable.
> > >
> > > Well, I am not 100% sure it is not TDE. It could be the "camera protocol"
> > > used by TDE is the problem, because I can see and browse through the
> > > content in konqueror, but can not create directory or copy a file in
> > > already existing directories.
> > > But as far as I understand with MTP one could create directory on the
> > > device or save a file.
> > > It might be a project for someone or for me to create TDE MTP protocol
> > > for konqueror.
> >
> > One really obvious, really stupid thing that didn't pop into my head last
> > night:  have you checked user permissions and ownership on the
> > mount point and below?  (Not that I know whether MTP does user
> > permissions or not.)
> >
> > E. Liddell
> >
> 
> So far as I am concerned, if the user is trying to connect the smartphone to a 
> TDE desktop, then (strictly speaking) it is not off-topic, but rather a 
> problem that concerns TDE users in general; not necessarily that TDE users 
> can actually use said smartphone. 
> 
> ;-)
> 
> I did mention this much earlier (months ago, maybe even a year ago?) when 
> smartphones again were being discussed. But here goes ... 
> 
> When I was using the MATE desktop, I noticed that the MATE file manager, Caja, 
> *does* recognize the file system on my current smartphone, when attached by a 
> USB. (I was installing TDE packages, and had not yet got back home into TDE.) 
> 
> I could browse the directories, look at files, etc.; yet I could not write or 
> make changes to anything on the phone, nor delete items. For that, I got 
> myself a card reader, and generally keep everything important on an SD card. 
> (I searched for the thread, but cannot find it; I remember giving some more 
> details about the connection, but it's buried somewhere in my emails.) 
> 
> I *believe* that I recall the connections were listed as mtp://whatever
> 
> Whether I could somehow use Caja (or preferably Konqueror) to read and write 
> to the phone is another question. I did try changing permissions, but for 
> that, I believe I would need to root my phone, and I haven't wanted to take 
> that step yet, until I am sure that I have a backup plan. (I have a failed 
> hard drive full of inaccessible data to remind me of such folly, and a 
> bricked smartphone would be worse in some ways.) 
> 
> I am not suggesting using MATE or Konqueror, only testifying that it is 
> possible to get my desktop to recognize the phone like a connected hard 
> drive, to browse directories and files, etc. So as I said, the problem, it 
> seems to me, has something to do with changing permissions, or rooting the 
> phone. 

Just for checking: Does MTP allow delete/create on the same machine with the same phone but a different tool?

> 
> Bill
> 
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