On Monday 05 October 2020 14:36:37 Slávek Banko via tde-users wrote: > On Monday 05 of October 2020 21:40:08 William Morder via tde-users wrote: > > On Sunday 04 October 2020 11:58:15 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote: > > > Anno domini 2020 Sun, 4 Oct 11:52:09 -0700 > > > > > > William Morder via tde-users scripsit: > > > > Now that I checked my own sources.list, it occurred to me to try an > > > > upgrade, and there are lots of new Trinity packages available. > > > > However, many of these are language packs that I don't really need: > > > > SNIP - see previous posts for the whole list > > > > > > > > Is there any way to upgrade without also downloading ALL of > > > > these?!?! I am pretty sure I did not install earlier versions of > > > > these packages. > > > > > > IMO this should not happen. Can't you uninstall them? > > > > > > Nik > > > > > So ... to add the question to my own non-answer: Are all those language > > packs, by some chance, included as part of some other packages or > > metapackages, or whatever? > > snip > > The real question is, How did they get installed in the first place? > > Assuming that I didn't just go temporarily blind and miss something so > > obvious, then the next most likely possibility is that they get > > installed as dependencies for other items, or that they are part of a > > metapackage. Can anybody answer this question? as I would prefer not to > > install these or other unwanted packages. > > > > Bill > > > Are you up to some investigation? > fgrep tde-i18n-af-trinity /var/log/aptitude /var/log/apt/history.log > zfgrep tde-i18n-af-trinity /var/log/aptitude*gz /var/log/apt/history.log*gz > > That should help to figure out when it was installed. > > Nik The grep commands yield no pertinent information, so far as I can tell. For one thing, I don't use aptitude, but always apt-get. However, I modified the commands, (hopefully) to include apt-get and apt, and still get nothing except that I have purged them already; no log of having installed them. WTF?!?! > Hi Bill, > > these packages certainly do not install automatically, without user > intervention. The only dependency is that the tde-trinity metapackage has > the symbolic name "tde-i18n-trinity" (virtual package) set as Suggests > (less weight than Recommends), which fills all of these language packages. Only hard dependencies would get installed in my system, no suggests or recommends. > However, as I mentioned, there would be a necessary collaboration from the > user to choose to install this virtual package name. > > Cheers Thanks for your responses, both Nik and Slavek. However, I am still puzzled, to say the least. Not that it's a critical problem, but I do like to know when and why weird things like this occur. Also, I will concede the possibiity of human error on my part, and that somehow this user interacted in a manner that I must have agreed to their installation. And yet, I believe I would have remembered such a long list of language packs. In the past, I have been guilty of errors or mistakes; for example, 16 April 1964, and one earlier than that, in February of 1958. Since then, however, I have been more vigilant. Bill Bill ____________________________________________________ tde-users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Web mail archive available at https://mail.trinitydesktop.org/mailman3/hyperkitty/list/users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
