On Monday 05 of October 2020 21:40:08 William Morder via tde-users wrote: > On Sunday 04 October 2020 11:58:15 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote: > > Anno domini 2020 Sun, 4 Oct 11:52:09 -0700 > > > > William Morder via tde-users scripsit: > > > Now that I checked my own sources.list, it occurred to me to try an > > > upgrade, and there are lots of new Trinity packages available. > > > However, many of these are language packs that I don't really need: > > > > > > tde-i18n-af-trinity tde-i18n-ar-trinity tde-i18n-az-trinity > > > tde-i18n-be-trinity tde-i18n-bg-trinity > > > tde-i18n-bn-trinity tde-i18n-br-trinity tde-i18n-bs-trinity > > > tde-i18n-ca-trinity tde-i18n-cs-trinity tde-i18n-csb-trinity > > > tde-i18n-cy-trinity tde-i18n-da-trinity tde-i18n-de-trinity > > > tde-i18n-el-trinity tde-i18n-engb-trinity tde-i18n-eo-trinity > > > tde-i18n-es-trinity tde-i18n-et-trinity tde-i18n-eu-trinity > > > tde-i18n-fa-trinity tde-i18n-fi-trinity tde-i18n-fr-trinity > > > tde-i18n-fy-trinity tde-i18n-ga-trinity tde-i18n-gl-trinity > > > tde-i18n-he-trinity tde-i18n-hi-trinity tde-i18n-hr-trinity > > > tde-i18n-hu-trinity tde-i18n-is-trinity tde-i18n-it-trinity > > > tde-i18n-ja-trinity tde-i18n-kk-trinity tde-i18n-km-trinity > > > tde-i18n-ko-trinity tde-i18n-lt-trinity tde-i18n-lv-trinity > > > tde-i18n-mk-trinity tde-i18n-mn-trinity tde-i18n-ms-trinity > > > tde-i18n-nb-trinity tde-i18n-nds-trinity tde-i18n-nl-trinity > > > tde-i18n-nn-trinity tde-i18n-pa-trinity tde-i18n-pl-trinity > > > tde-i18n-pt-trinity tde-i18n-ptbr-trinity tde-i18n-ro-trinity > > > tde-i18n-ru-trinity tde-i18n-rw-trinity tde-i18n-se-trinity > > > tde-i18n-sk-trinity tde-i18n-sl-trinity tde-i18n-sr-trinity > > > tde-i18n-srlatin-trinity tde-i18n-ss-trinity tde-i18n-sv-trinity > > > tde-i18n-ta-trinity tde-i18n-te-trinity tde-i18n-tg-trinity > > > tde-i18n-th-trinity tde-i18n-tr-trinity tde-i18n-uk-trinity > > > tde-i18n-uz-trinity tde-i18n-uzcyrillic-trinity > > > tde-i18n-vi-trinity tde-i18n-wa-trinity tde-i18n-zhcn-trinity > > > tde-i18n-zhtw-trinity > > > > > > Is there any way to upgrade without also downloading ALL of > > > these?!?! I am pretty sure I did not install earlier versions of > > > these packages. > > > > IMO this should not happen. Can't you uninstall them? > > > > Nik > > > > > Bill > > Sure, of course I can uninstall them. The thing is, I *never* installed > them at all; I would have noticed something like THAT. > > Therefore, one would think, I ought not have to install or uninstall > them now. > > Bill > > So ... to add the question to my own non-answer: Are all those language > packs, by some chance, included as part of some other packages or > metapackages, or whatever? > > I am quite sure that I never installed them at all, as I would have > noticed when apt-get listed them as packages to be installed or > upgraded; only with this recent upgrade did they suddenly offer > themselves. > > In fact I did have to uninstall them manually, after which they did not > appear among items to be upgraded. So it's not a critical problem, and > now they are gone, problem solved for the moment. > > The real question is, How did they get installed in the first place? > Assuming that I didn't just go temporarily blind and miss something so > obvious, then the next most likely possibility is that they get > installed as dependencies for other items, or that they are part of a > metapackage. Can anybody answer this question? as I would prefer not to > install these or other unwanted packages. > > Bill Hi Bill, these packages certainly do not install automatically, without user intervention. The only dependency is that the tde-trinity metapackage has the symbolic name "tde-i18n-trinity" (virtual package) set as Suggests (less weight than Recommends), which fills all of these language packages. However, as I mentioned, there would be a necessary collaboration from the user to choose to install this virtual package name. Cheers -- Slávek
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