Anno domini 2020 Thu, 3 Sep 12:33:22 -0700 William Morder via trinity-users scripsit: > > On Thursday 03 September 2020 12:26:01 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote: > > Anno domini 2020 Thu, 3 Sep 10:27:43 -0700 > > > > William Morder via trinity-users scripsit: > > > On Thursday 03 September 2020 10:01:53 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote: > > > > Anno domini 2020 Thu, 3 Sep 07:57:03 -0700 > > > > > > > > William Morder via trinity-users scripsit: > > > > > While I have Internet, of a sort, I still have a few glitches; for > > > > > example, I cannot go offline, then go online again. Somehow, wicd > > > > > either auto-connects to my wifi network; when instead, I want to > > > > > enable wifi, then look at the available network choices, because my > > > > > local network has several nodes or access points within the building > > > > > where I live, and somehow it doesn't always choose the strongest or > > > > > closest signal. I have an access point right outside my door, yet > > > > > autoconnect seems to avoid it. > > > > > > > > > > But when I try to disconnect, sometimes wicd seems to hang on, and > > > > > show me still connected, yet I can't download emails or go online for > > > > > other stuff. When I run macchanger, it keeps showing me that my mac > > > > > address changes; and I run knetstats-trinity (which is a nice simple > > > > > gui tool) and it shows my wireless is connected then disconnected, > > > > > shows activity then no activity; yet in reality, I can't go online. > > > > > So my only recourse at this point is to reboot. > > > > > > > > > > When I tried to get tdenetworkmanager to run, I had those problems > > > > > already discussed earlier. I managed to download the packages and > > > > > dependencies to install network-manager-tde without systemd, so it > > > > > all *seems* like it ought to work out right, but I always end up > > > > > going back to wicd; which, again, is only sort of half-working at the > > > > > moment, and I must keep rebooting. > > > > > > > > > > How would I go about pruning away the wicd stuff that I don't want, > > > > > and keeping only the tdenetworkmanager and required dependencies, > > > > > etc.? I've search apt-get, but I believe that I already have all the > > > > > dependencies and recommends. I can't think what else I might have > > > > > missed. > > > > > > > > > > Bill > > > > > > > > Just my experience: eiter use wicd (and uninstall network-manager) or > > > > use networkmanager (and uninstall wicd). > > > > > > Yeah, that's where I think I am headed. I already spent most of the past > > > two years using wicd instead of tdenetworkmanager. I just keep hoping > > > that I will get a different answer, so I ask the fortune teller to give > > > me another reading, and then another ... > > > > > > I would be okay with using wicd instead; no problem. But now when I go > > > offline, wicd doesn't offer me "options" -- that is, it looks like it > > > hangs on, like it's still online, and I cannot get back online without > > > rebooting. > > > > > > Maybe I should run wicd as root? I don't like to do that. Usually wicd > > > doesn't behave in this manner, which I why I'm bothered. > > > > the deamon part of wicd runs as root, your gui client communicates with > > that daemon. there's also a wicd-cli for pure hearted. > > > > btw, what's in your /etc/netwok/interfaces? since beowulf/buster anything > > but "lo" will give trouble. > > > > > I am not in control of my network connection -- as proved by the fact > > > that I can't go online/offline or offline/online without rebooting. This > > > is what is driving me crazy. > > > > > > If anybody is annoyed by my complaints, and failure to resolve my own > > > issues, please be patient with me, and remember that I never had any > > > problems with my network itself for the past few years. I would bounce > > > between > > > tdenetworkmanager and wicd, it's true, but my network connection was > > > stable, and I felt in control. I had other problems, yes, but this is > > > different. > > > > > > Bill > > > > > > > > Looks like so: > ########### > source /etc/network/interfaces.d/* > > # The loopback network interface > auto lo > iface lo inet loopback > address 127.0.0.1 > netmask 255.0.0.0 > > auto eth0 > allow-hotplug eth0 > iface eth0 inet dhcp > > # auto wlx00027288d1fd > allow-hotplug wlx00027288d1fd > iface wlx00027288d1fd inet dhcp > wpa-ssid myssid > wpa-psk mypassphrase > ########### > The only thing changed since sometime in remote prehistory (before TDE) is the > line that used to read wlan0, which is now that ugly wlx-stuff. > > Bill > Remove or comment out all lines except these 2, then reboot: auto lo iface lo inet loopback > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: trinity-users-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > For additional commands, e-mail: trinity-users-help@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Read list messages on the web archive: http://trinity-users.pearsoncomputing.net/ > Please remember not to top-post: http://trinity.pearsoncomputing.net/mailing_lists/#top-posting > > -- Please do not email me anything that you are not comfortable also sharing with the NSA, CIA ... --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: trinity-users-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx For additional commands, e-mail: trinity-users-help@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Read list messages on the web archive: http://trinity-users.pearsoncomputing.net/ Please remember not to top-post: http://trinity.pearsoncomputing.net/mailing_lists/#top-posting