On Thursday 03 September 2020 12:26:01 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote: > Anno domini 2020 Thu, 3 Sep 10:27:43 -0700 > > William Morder via trinity-users scripsit: > > On Thursday 03 September 2020 10:01:53 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote: > > > Anno domini 2020 Thu, 3 Sep 07:57:03 -0700 > > > > > > William Morder via trinity-users scripsit: > > > > While I have Internet, of a sort, I still have a few glitches; for > > > > example, I cannot go offline, then go online again. Somehow, wicd > > > > either auto-connects to my wifi network; when instead, I want to > > > > enable wifi, then look at the available network choices, because my > > > > local network has several nodes or access points within the building > > > > where I live, and somehow it doesn't always choose the strongest or > > > > closest signal. I have an access point right outside my door, yet > > > > autoconnect seems to avoid it. > > > > > > > > But when I try to disconnect, sometimes wicd seems to hang on, and > > > > show me still connected, yet I can't download emails or go online for > > > > other stuff. When I run macchanger, it keeps showing me that my mac > > > > address changes; and I run knetstats-trinity (which is a nice simple > > > > gui tool) and it shows my wireless is connected then disconnected, > > > > shows activity then no activity; yet in reality, I can't go online. > > > > So my only recourse at this point is to reboot. > > > > > > > > When I tried to get tdenetworkmanager to run, I had those problems > > > > already discussed earlier. I managed to download the packages and > > > > dependencies to install network-manager-tde without systemd, so it > > > > all *seems* like it ought to work out right, but I always end up > > > > going back to wicd; which, again, is only sort of half-working at the > > > > moment, and I must keep rebooting. > > > > > > > > How would I go about pruning away the wicd stuff that I don't want, > > > > and keeping only the tdenetworkmanager and required dependencies, > > > > etc.? I've search apt-get, but I believe that I already have all the > > > > dependencies and recommends. I can't think what else I might have > > > > missed. > > > > > > > > Bill > > > > > > Just my experience: eiter use wicd (and uninstall network-manager) or > > > use networkmanager (and uninstall wicd). > > > > Yeah, that's where I think I am headed. I already spent most of the past > > two years using wicd instead of tdenetworkmanager. I just keep hoping > > that I will get a different answer, so I ask the fortune teller to give > > me another reading, and then another ... > > > > I would be okay with using wicd instead; no problem. But now when I go > > offline, wicd doesn't offer me "options" -- that is, it looks like it > > hangs on, like it's still online, and I cannot get back online without > > rebooting. > > > > Maybe I should run wicd as root? I don't like to do that. Usually wicd > > doesn't behave in this manner, which I why I'm bothered. > > the deamon part of wicd runs as root, your gui client communicates with > that daemon. there's also a wicd-cli for pure hearted. > > btw, what's in your /etc/netwok/interfaces? since beowulf/buster anything > but "lo" will give trouble. > > > I am not in control of my network connection -- as proved by the fact > > that I can't go online/offline or offline/online without rebooting. This > > is what is driving me crazy. > > > > If anybody is annoyed by my complaints, and failure to resolve my own > > issues, please be patient with me, and remember that I never had any > > problems with my network itself for the past few years. I would bounce > > between > > tdenetworkmanager and wicd, it's true, but my network connection was > > stable, and I felt in control. I had other problems, yes, but this is > > different. > > > > Bill > > > > I might give that wicd-cli a whirl, since I already have it, and its manpages are blessedly short, yet have all the options I want. It is a matter of debate, whether or not I am pure of heart; nowadays, however, I have been washing my hands more often than usual. That ought to count for something, right? Bill --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: trinity-users-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx For additional commands, e-mail: trinity-users-help@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Read list messages on the web archive: http://trinity-users.pearsoncomputing.net/ Please remember not to top-post: http://trinity.pearsoncomputing.net/mailing_lists/#top-posting
