On Tuesday 01 September 2020 08:22:44 E. Liddell wrote: > On Tue, 1 Sep 2020 05:20:27 -0700 > > "William Morder via trinity-users" <trinity-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > So the only answer I get is that I must install systemd in order to run > > tdenetworkmanager? I've already tried some command-line voodoo to force > > installation, ignore held packages, all that good stuff. > > As a last resort, compile networkmanager yourself? systemd appears to be > a strictly optional dependency (for some optional functionality, you need > one of systemd, elogind, or consolekit). > > E. Liddell > I just experimented with Slavek's PSB and PTB repos, but I get the same results, no matter what. If all else fails, I could probably use dpkg to force-install an older/newer version of the package (from stretch or bullseye?), just to see if I can make it work. It would probably work as a standalone package without systemd if I used the stretch version (just a hunch, based on past experience); I've done this with a few problematic items, and they often run just fine, but then when I try to install something else or upgrade, the system wants to remove them. As I am still new to beowulf/buster, I am trying to play nice, follow the rules, and avoid anything too weird. Once I know it better, I'll find a way to make it do what I want. Maybe Slavek will get drawn into this discussion. I feel sure that he gets the no-systemd crowd. Bill --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: trinity-users-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx For additional commands, e-mail: trinity-users-help@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Read list messages on the web archive: http://trinity-users.pearsoncomputing.net/ Please remember not to top-post: http://trinity.pearsoncomputing.net/mailing_lists/#top-posting