network-manager-tde - dependency issues

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Another new problem, and I swear, this one is not of my own making; unless of 
course you mean that I am one of those no-systemd devuan dissidents. 

So far, in my new Beowulf installation, I've been using wicd to connect; not 
because I prefer it, but only because it's there. When I was running Jessie, 
over the past few years tdenetworkmanager and wicd seemed to fight it out, 
and I couldn't figure out the cause. Sometimes, on a fresh installation, I 
would be able to use tdenetworkmanager; sometimes not. On the whole, I ended 
up using wicd about 3/4 of the time. But anyway, at least I could connect, 
and had no serious issues. It was more a matter of preference. One thing I 
did notice, though, is that wicd somehow would assume root privileges, even 
though I did not run it as root. 

Anyway, so in my new installation, I would like to use tdenetworkmanager, but 
now I get these error messages. I list them in order of discovery: 

1 - network-manager-tde depends on network-manager 
(Yeah, I knew that, but huh?) 
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
 network-manager-tde : Depends: network-manager (>= 0.7.0) but it is not going 
to be installed
E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
2 - Let's grab that dependency ... 
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
 network-manager : Depends: libpam-systemd

3 - Let's try to build-dep ... 
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
 builddeps:network-manager : Depends: libpolkit-agent-1-dev (>= 0.97) but it 
is not going to be installed
                          Depends: systemd (>= 185) but it is not installable

4 - Why can't I build-dep for network-manager?
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
 builddeps:network-manager : Depends: libpolkit-agent-1-dev (>= 0.97) but it 
is not going to be installed
                             Depends: systemd (>= 185) but it is not 
installable
E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.

So the only answer I get is that I must install systemd in order to run 
tdenetworkmanager? I've already tried some command-line voodoo to force 
installation, ignore held packages, all that good stuff. 

I would just give up for the present, and rely on wicd, which at least has 
always worked pretty well. It's been my #2 choice, when I've had issues with 
tdenetworkmanager, which has been about 3/4 of the past couple years. It may 
be an issue with Debian, because technically TDE-Trinity uses Debian Buster 
packages, not Devuan Beowulf; they are the same, mostly, but not always. 

Now my problem is, once I go online, thereafter I cannot go offline. When I 
try, I usually find that I still have an active connection that won't die; 
when I do succeed in going offline, after that I cannot get back online, but 
must reboot in order to get a connection again. 

My verdict is, something's wrong. 

Bill





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