On Thursday 20 August 2020 12:30:58 Janek Stolarek wrote: > > No, certain browsers typically make lots of connections like this: > > Chromium, for example, but Vivaldi is worse. > > Yes, but the key question is *why* are they makling these connections. If > they are sending your private data somewhere that of course is be bad. But > if they are fetching data actually used to improve privacy? Modern pbrowser > provide tracking protection, dangerous site protection, ad blocking - they > need to get the data required to get this right from somewhere. So, to me > the fact that a browser is making connections to various web servers > doesn't really tell me anything about its security or privacy practices. > > I did try out Icecat. This one is truly for the masochists. If I want a > browser where nothing works because of privacy concerns I go with Tor. It > was however interesting to try out something new, if only for 10 minutes. > > Janek > Huh. Well, everybody is different. Myself, I like to know who is doing what, and why. For example, just yesterday after you mentioned Vivaldi, I took it upon myself to use it (actually, Vivaldi-Snapshot) again, as it is getting to be that time of the month when I do use it. When I started up Vivaldi, I just happened to be watching my firewall, and wget made an outbound request on its own from my computer; the IP address was 142.250.68.14; and when I did a whois query, I find that it belongs to Google. Now why, I ask, should Google get something via wget from my machine when Vivaldi starts up? For myself, I would sort of like to know the reason before I allow my machine to act on my behalf. And while I do not for a moment doubt that the good and kind folks at Google are only doing this for my own good, and I probably ought not worry my pretty head about such details ... still, I am a stubborn kind of fella, and I would really like to know their reasons. So, if using Icecat makes me a masochist, well, I don't mind a little pain. It does take some patience with configuration, to get it to do what I want, but my point is, I CAN MAKE IT DO WHAT I WANT -- and nothing else. Vivaldi, so far, doesn't allow this. But no pressure: you decide. ;-) Bill --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: trinity-users-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx For additional commands, e-mail: trinity-users-help@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Read list messages on the web archive: http://trinity-users.pearsoncomputing.net/ Please remember not to top-post: http://trinity.pearsoncomputing.net/mailing_lists/#top-posting