On Wednesday 19 August 2020 14:12:39 Janek Stolarek wrote: > > I did try Vivaldi, and it has some good things about it; however, it is > > not exactly free/libre, GNU/Linux, Richard-Stallman-approved. > > Indeed. The team claims that although the code is not on a Free license > (aside from Chromium modifications, which are BSD license), but it is > openly available for inspection: > > https://vivaldi.com/source/ > > > Vivaldi makes connections to gezillions of different IP addresses. > > I would be guessing it queries external sites for data needed to provide > functionality like ad blocking (it needs to regularly update the ad > filters), etc. Firefox seems no better here, I think. > No, certain browsers typically make lots of connections like this: Chromium, for example, but Vivaldi is worse. In a nutshell, it usually comes down to the degree to which they are proprietary versus free/libre. (I am not saying that this is the actual "cause"; it is probably just a coincidence that keeps happening, again and again and again.) Mozilla-type browsers do not display such behavior; although, I ought to qualify my statement, this is *after* I have modified it quite a bit, making dozens of changes in about:config and elsewhere. > > Otherwise, have you considered other Mozilla-based browsers, such as > > Icecat > > I haven't heard about Icecat. I will take a look. > > > There is also PaleMoon, as well as a few others, and most of these > > preserve some of the old Mozilla features that we have missed. > > I do have Palemoon, which I primarily use when I need to download huge > files. Palemoon has the Flashgot plugin, which intergates with Trinity's > KGet allowing to easily redirect links to TDE's download manager. It's a > pity that when Firefox moved to Quantum it left behind so many good > extensions that have not been replaced until now and most likely will never > be replaced. > > > I am sure you have your own reasons for choice of browser, so I will > > refrain from rants against proprietary or "non-free" software. > > I do prefer my software open source and only go for closed source when > there's really a significant difference in software quality. > > Janek > I keep repeating, I am not really an evangelist for GNU/Linux; I am only interested in what works. If "non-free" software just worked (and did not leave obvious traces of how it is actually working against its users), then I would probably still be running Windoze or the rotten Apple. Again, it is probably just a coincidence that I prefer free/libre and GNU/Linux, because coincidentally it just works. Bill --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: trinity-users-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx For additional commands, e-mail: trinity-users-help@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Read list messages on the web archive: http://trinity-users.pearsoncomputing.net/ Please remember not to top-post: http://trinity.pearsoncomputing.net/mailing_lists/#top-posting