Anno domini 2019 Sat, 21 Dec 12:30:53 -0500 James D Freels scripsit: > OK. Had to reboot with TDM active to uncover this issue. > > When I issue systemd-analyze blame , I get: > > systemd-analyze blame > Bootup is not yet finished > (org.freedesktop.systemd1.Manager.FinishTimestampMonotonic=0). > Please try again later. > Hint: Use 'systemctl list-jobs' to see active jobs > > Of course later never comes since this step continuously hangs. So > taking the suggestion, the output from systemctl list-jobs is: > > JOB UNIT TYPE STATE > 147 getty@tty1.service start waiting > 2 multi-user.target start waiting > 1 graphical.target start waiting > 129 systemd-update-utmp-runlevel.service start waiting > 105 plymouth-quit-wait.service start running > 146 getty.target start waiting > > 6 jobs listed. > > So, it appears related to plymouth. Is plymouth used in TDM? You can saferly purge all plymouth* packages. It's just eyecandy and a source of interestring problems. Nik > > Also tried systemd-analyze critical-chain, and get identical output > > Bootup is not yet finished > (org.freedesktop.systemd1.Manager.FinishTimestampMonotonic=0). > Please try again later. > Hint: Use 'systemctl list-jobs' to see active jobs > > > On 12/21/19 12:18 PM, James D Freels wrote: > > This is a great suggestion. I will give it a try and report back later. > > > > On 12/21/19 3:02 AM, Nick Koretsky wrote: > >> On Fri, 20 Dec 2019 18:52:35 -0500 > >> James D Freels <freelsjd@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> > >>> If I boot up under TDM (after running dpkg-reconfigure tdm-trinity > >>> first > >>> to initiate TDM into the boot sequence), it starts fine, but > >>> continuously hangs in the main console with one of the infamous systemd > >>> problems wherein we get the "a startjob is running ..." and it NEVER > >>> ends until rebooted. The TDM session appears to run fine, and I can > >>> login and run TDE fine. However, because the vt1 console is never > >>> ending waiting to complete, I have no other VT consoles. Essentially, I > >>> have NO virtual consoles at all. Further, computer resources are > >>> always > >>> wasted and never ends waiting for the the startup to completely finish. > >>> This ONLY happens when booting up with TDM. > >>> > >>> I can bootup with LXDM or LIGHTDM and this does not happen. Further, I > >>> can issue a "systemctl stop lightdm" or "systemctl stop lxdm" > >>> (depending > >>> on which is running from the boot), then issue a "systemctl start > >>> tdm-trinity" and TDM runs fine and there is not a never ending startjob > >>> waiting to complete. So, it appears that TDM does not start in the > >>> same > >>> order of the boot sequence as LXDM and/or LIGHTDM which is causing this > >>> problem. > >>> > >>> It is at this point, where I need some help in how to fix it, and I > >>> suspect that all debian/buster users may have the same issue, but not > >>> sure of course. I hope I can help get his bug fixed before the final > >>> release of TDE for buster. > >>> > >> I dont think its a bug in TDE, this looks like some systemd problem, > >> so a > >> steps to deal with systemd problems has to be followed. > >> Starting with 'systemd-analyze blame' and 'systemd-analyze > >> critical-chain'. > >> > >> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: trinity-users-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > For additional commands, e-mail: trinity-users-help@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Read list messages on the web archive: http://trinity-users.pearsoncomputing.net/ > Please remember not to top-post: http://trinity.pearsoncomputing.net/mailing_lists/#top-posting > > -- Please do not email me anything that you are not comfortable also sharing with the NSA, CIA ... --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: trinity-users-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx For additional commands, e-mail: trinity-users-help@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Read list messages on the web archive: http://trinity-users.pearsoncomputing.net/ Please remember not to top-post: http://trinity.pearsoncomputing.net/mailing_lists/#top-posting