Re: kmail, next update request?

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On Saturday 12 January 2019 14:45:18 Gene Heskett wrote:

> On Saturday 12 January 2019 14:24:30 Gene Heskett wrote:
> > On Friday 11 January 2019 11:16:51 Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > On Friday 11 January 2019 10:21:43 Stefan Krusche wrote:
> > > > Am Freitag, 11. Januar 2019 schrieb Gene Heskett:
> > > > > Greetings all;
> > > > >
> > > > > On the next kmail update would it be possible to add a popup
> > > > > for the case of the indice fixing when it gets lost?
> > > > >
> > > > > The time lag between clicking on the OK in that event, can be
> > > > > long enough you've forgotten you started kmail once already,
> > > > > and its cpu load while doing that is quite minimal, and I
> > > > > suspect half or more of my indice problems are probably caused
> > > > > by two copies of kmail fighting over the indice files.
> > > >
> > > > Hi Gene,
> > > >
> > > > are you really sure you have two instances of kmail running
> > > > under that circumstances?!  I have never seen two instances
> > > > running simultaneously. When I try to launch a second instance
> > > > of kmail it doesn't do so, it just switches to the already
> > > > running instance…
> > > >
> > > > M2C
> > > >
> > > > Kind regards,
> > > > Stefan
> > >
> > > Well, I just had htop send a terminate to the highest process # of
> > > 5 copies of kmail it can see. Killed it all.
> > >
> > > Restarted it from the tde most popular app list, see 2 copies
> > > running with both useing some cpu. and it reports the same bad
> > > index for one folder at restart. At this point I see 2 copies of
> > > kmail running, but when it has rebuilt the index for the emc
> > > directory, which currently holds a bit north of 58k messages, then
> > > I see 5 copies running, but only the first copy is actually
> > > showing cpu time.  And its
> > > resurrecting read messages as new, unread. I can cycle thru them,
> > > reducing the unread count to zero, but then go to another list,
> > > and come back after having read its unread, and by then this
> > > folder has the same 3 (could be 40+) that I've already read and
> > > replied to, are once again marked unread. I've checked perms and
> > > such but I own the whole several gigabyte corpus of email, so I
> > > can't point any fingers at that for a cause.
> > >
> > > So whats doing it?
> > >
> > > This has been over the years, an ongoing problem when the number
> > > of messages in a given directory is in the modulo 60000 range. I
> > > have another list thats nearly 130k messages, gave me an identical
> > > problem for about a month about 18 months back. Then it got well,
> > > and hasn't done it in quite a spell now. Note that I abuse kmail a
> > > bit, I do have a procmail recipe or 3 that put bad stuff directly
> > > in the spam folder, and an sa-learn script that cleans out the
> > > spam-hold directory, feeds the spam to sa-learn and then moves the
> > > spam to a spam-hold folder that I review daily in case I want to
> > > rescue something miss-filed, so I am used to a spam and spam-hold
> > > index's needing a rebuild, but thats rarely more than 10 messages
> > > in either folder so that pair of indices being rebuilt is only a
> > > second or so
> > >
> > > Now this started up about a week ago. And I thought maybe this was
> > > a good time to see if we can spot the rat somehow.
> >
> > Further info: A read email in this directory doesn't get a :2,S
> > appended to its filename. Adding that by hand converts it into a
> > read mail, apparently forever.
> >
> > What can be made of that? The directory currently has:
> > gene@coyote:~/Mail/emc/cur$ ls -l |wc -l
> > 58868
> > files in it.
> >
> > But another even bigger directory:
> > gene@coyote:~/Mail/emc/cur$ ls -l ../../coco/cur|wc -l
> > 107784
> >
> > has no such problems now for several years. It did have a similar
> > problem when it was about that size back when it was the old kde
> > version.
>
> Another bit of info: mc see's the dot directories, and in exploring
> for oddball trash, I found indice files that were not related to the
> directory they were in and I deleted them all, then restarted kmail,
> which of course complained about this "emc" directories indice file,
> so I assume it would rebuild, then open kmails gui. But when it had
> done so, there is not an indice file visible, so I am now wondering if
> all these empty directories can be nuked.
>
> But before I do that, I'll restart kmail again to see if it now
> complains about the emc directory.
No, the restart was clean, no complaints. I'm going to get rid of the now 
empty dot directories next.
>
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> > > Cheers, Gene Heskett
> >
> > Cheers, Gene Heskett
>
> Cheers, Gene Heskett


Cheers, Gene Heskett
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