On Sunday 15 July 2018 01:34:01 Nick Koretsky wrote: > On Sat, 14 Jul 2018 19:50:38 -0700 > > William Morder <doctor_contendo@xxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > On the whole, Devuan runs much faster than Debian, and also my system > > > > doesn't hang. I started having these and other problems, and returned > > > > for the moment to Debian Jessie, which runs okay, but hangs a lot, > > > > and when I try to reboot seems to get permanently stuck on some stuff > > > > called rpcbind and watchdog. (Also I note that systemd is always > > > > doing something, don't know what.) > > > > > > > > I am contemplating some kind of FrankenDebian hack (or rather, > > > > FrankenDevuan). I seem to recall that somebody mentioned that > > > > sysvinit could be installed, and systemd purged, on a Debian system. > > > > The do upgrades from the Debian repositories, but keep sysvinit and > > > > avoid the systemd problems. > > > > > > This depend on what level you want to purge systemd. If it is not for > > > ideological reasons and you are ok with having all sysytemd libraries > > > in system, just want sysvinit as pid 1, then you just need to install > > > sysvinit-core and uninstall systemd-sysv. > > > > Thanks, I believe that answers my question. I've already seen Devuan > > running more or less like this, and it seemed to do okay. I am not > > "against" systemd for ideological reasons; I only want my system to run > > smoothly and efficiently, not to hang up, that kind of thing; and > > something like this would seem to be my solution, at least temporarily. > > > > As for getting off-topic, I will drop it for now, as I have got my own > > answer, and leave others to work out these other issues that don't > > concern me. > > BTW, a trick to prevent systemd accidentally getting reinstalled as pid 1 > on updates - create a file in /etc/apt/preferences.d with following > content: > > Package: systemd-sysv > Pin: release o=Debian > Pin-Priority: -1 Thanks to those recent tips from deloptes and Nick Koretsky, my system is now purring like a kitten. And I did find a file called avoid-systemd in that folder, so I copied it for backup. Bill --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: trinity-users-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx For additional commands, e-mail: trinity-users-help@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Read list messages on the web archive: http://trinity-users.pearsoncomputing.net/ Please remember not to top-post: http://trinity.pearsoncomputing.net/mailing_lists/#top-posting
