On Saturday 14 July 2018 16:28:18 Nick Koretsky wrote: > On Sat, 14 Jul 2018 15:03:46 -0700 > > William Morder <doctor_contendo@xxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On the whole, Devuan runs much faster than Debian, and also my system > > doesn't hang. I started having these and other problems, and returned for > > the moment to Debian Jessie, which runs okay, but hangs a lot, and when I > > try to reboot seems to get permanently stuck on some stuff called rpcbind > > and watchdog. (Also I note that systemd is always doing something, don't > > know what.) > > > > I am contemplating some kind of FrankenDebian hack (or rather, > > FrankenDevuan). I seem to recall that somebody mentioned that sysvinit > > could be installed, and systemd purged, on a Debian system. The do > > upgrades from the Debian repositories, but keep sysvinit and avoid the > > systemd problems. > > This depend on what level you want to purge systemd. If it is not for > ideological reasons and you are ok with having all sysytemd libraries in > system, just want sysvinit as pid 1, then you just need to install > sysvinit-core and uninstall systemd-sysv. Thanks, I believe that answers my question. I've already seen Devuan running more or less like this, and it seemed to do okay. I am not "against" systemd for ideological reasons; I only want my system to run smoothly and efficiently, not to hang up, that kind of thing; and something like this would seem to be my solution, at least temporarily. As for getting off-topic, I will drop it for now, as I have got my own answer, and leave others to work out these other issues that don't concern me. Bill --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: trinity-users-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx For additional commands, e-mail: trinity-users-help@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Read list messages on the web archive: http://trinity-users.pearsoncomputing.net/ Please remember not to top-post: http://trinity.pearsoncomputing.net/mailing_lists/#top-posting