Re: today's immature bothersome question

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On Monday 02 July 2018 03:07:16 Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Sunday 01 July 2018 21:48:27 William Morder wrote:
> > On Sunday 01 July 2018 18:03:13 Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > On Sunday 01 July 2018 20:47:58 William Morder wrote:
> > > > On Sunday 01 July 2018 17:23:52 Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > > > On Sunday 01 July 2018 19:58:34 Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > > > > On Sunday 01 July 2018 19:16:01 dep wrote:
> > > > > > > /home/dep/trinity/share/config/ etc....
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I have that file, its owned by me:me and is rw only for me.
> > > > > > And contains:
> > > > > > DVI-I-1=
> > > > > > DefaultProfile=
> > > > > > EnableICC=false
> > > > > > HDMI-1=
> > > > > > VGA-1=
> > > > > >
> > > > > > No clue what could have sneezed and screwed it up, but there
> > > > > > it is.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > No clue of the effect of setting some of those options might
> > > > > > be. And no manpage. So your guess is likely better than mine.
> > > > >
> > > > > Oh, I just found one thing that has not been fixed, I have audio
> > > > > during boot until tdm starts after I log in.  After login, I
> > > > > still have to do an "alsactl restoreRETURN" before I have any
> > > > > sound. Can this be fixed?
> > > >
> > > > I use ALSA, and it starts when I boot up.
> > > >
> > > > Have you messed with this toy?
> > > > sudo sysv-rc-conf
> > >
> > > That is not findable on this wheezy machine.
> >
> > You should be able to get it by installing through apt:
> >
> > sudo apt-get install sysv-rc-conf
> >
> > Then I will send you a screenshot of my own run levels, or somebody
> > else can do so; or you can do some research on how to set the run
> > levels in sysv-rc-conf.
> >
> > I seem to recall that you could make some of these changes through the
> > Trinity Control Center, but sysv-rc-conf is much easier, so long as
> > you are careful. A lot of things can slow down your machine, because
> > they are configured to run at startup when you don't need them; while
> > other things that you want, like your sound system, might be disabled.
> >
> > Bill
>
> It might be a good idea, and it may not.  But the fact is that I have 5
> machines here still running wheezy and one jessie, which wheezy is now
> officially EOL even for security stuff. Until the lcnc crew have made up
> a jessie or stretch installer, So the likelyhood of my playing with this
> is quite low.
>
> The jessie install is quite stable, but I have a rock64 running stretch
> that while its 20x faster than a pi, has problems with the login screen
> that in 6+ months, has not been fixed, so there is no way I could
> honestly say stretch is stable. Reboots after an update are a try this
> and see if it works, then try that, each one taking a full 10 second
> powerdown to get it to even try to reboot.
>
Yup, I remember that hangup from running Debian with systemd. Once I changed 
to Devuan, it no longer hangs on reboot. However, changing over to Devuan is 
not necessarily smooth and easy - although some here would disagree. I think 
it all depends on what one already has installed. 

> Until you finally get the ducks in order and a successful login can be
> done. That same rock64 runs jessie perfectly from power restoration to
> the next power failure. That I'd call stable.
>
> > > > Be careful, if you haven't used that before; although I suspect
> > > > that you know it. Don't make changes there unless you know what to
> > > > do.
> > > >
> > > > Also, look in
> > > > Trinity Control Center / Sound & Multimedia / Sound System
> > > > Both parts,
> > > > General / Hardware
> > > > ought to be examined.
> > > >

On the whole, I agree with your approach, I think, which seems to be: take it 
slow, and don't mess with a working system. Even when my system is not 
running quite perfectly, it's still better than one that doesn't run at all, 
and time wasted with reinstallation. 

Right now I have a lot of little glitches that keep building up, but I have a 
feeling that most are somehow related, as I've never had them before; and all 
are new since installing Devuan. So I mostly just keep trying to trace the 
source (or sources) of these issues, waiting until the inevitable 
reinstallation ... which could be another month or two. 

Bill


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